#1
OK, I'm going to rant a bit here, I just gotta do it.

I'm seeing a lot of people on here who obviously don't know diddly about guitar setups telling people to adjust the truss rod to set the action of a guitar.

You people need to get it through your heads,

THE TRUSS ROD IS NOT FOR SETTING THE ACTION.

one more time...

THE TRUSS ROD IS NOT FOR SETTING THE ACTION.

Got it now??

The truss rod should never be touched unless it is absolutely necessary to reset the back bow, so the strings do not buzz on the middle frets, where the vibrational pattern is widest.

Action is set by changing bridge height and filing the nut slots deeper if the strings are too high at the nut, the truss rod IS NOT INVOLVED.

I've been doing my own maintenance, repairs and setups for over 20 years, I know what I'm doing and I will ONLY adjust a truss rod if I cannot avoid it because the back bow is too much or nonexistent. I've never talked to a competent guitar tech who will adjust one for any other reason either.

PLEASE quit telling people to adjust their truss rod to set the action, you're going to cause someone to BREAK ONE, which is an expensive repair job, probably more than the guitar is worth in many cases.

One more time...

THE TRUSS ROD IS NOT FOR SETTING THE ACTION.

OK I'll shut up now...
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#3
Not entirely...the backbow is not critical, it can be more than factory specs and not be a big problem. If the neck is bowed toward the strings, yes that can be a problem, you'll get buzzing around the middle of the neck. Either way it has very little actual affect on action, if any and is very rarely needed as part of setup or maintenance.

My point was though, that in most cases the truss rod does not need to be adjusted, it has very little affect on action. Too much backbow can make it a bit more difficult to play, but we're talking rocking chair here...I've seen very few guitars that actually did need truss rod adjustments, and I look over the guitars at music stores and pawn shops as often as I can, it's a HABIT...it's called GAS...Guitar Acquisition Syndrome and I got it bad...

Out of the hundreds of guitars I've looked at and/or played in the past 5 years, I've seen exactly two that needed truss rod adjustments, both not enough backbow, creating string buzz. That's how rare it is to actually need a truss rod adjustment. Just one of the local guitar stores probably has 75 to 100 guitars on the racks at any given time, ranging from cheap korean copies to vintage Strats, Les Pauls and Telecasters and the occasional Flying V. I've played most of them. Add to that a half dozen pawn shops and two other music stores dealing in new and used instruments, that's a whole lotta guitars and only TWO needed adjustments at the truss rod.
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#4
yeah, see thats where we are different. haha. the past 5 guitars ive had come in for repair/setup have needed truss rod adjustment due to a perfectly straight neck (which some people like, but i prefer just a slightttt bough for stability), or a forwards bough that caused uneven action around the neck and nasty buzz. just a quick little 1/4 tighten and its golden. never more, sometimes less. most people just think, oh well if i tighten it allllll the way, my action will go down! if thats what you are mad about, i feel ya.
#5
No, what I'm irritated about is people advising others to adjust the truss rod TO SET THE ACTION...if it needs adjusting, fine. I see very few that do, and never for the sole purpose of adjusting the action, that is done differently.
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#6
TBH, every time I see a newb tell someone to adjust their truss rod, they immediately get shot down by the more experienced members, who then proceed to tell the other guy to take his guitar to a tech.

Just my 2 cents.
#8
Agreed, the truss rod is not for adjusting the action. But, I don't like how people are so against it here? Some one will come on and say there neck is a little bowed. Everyone screams at them to take it to a tech. I've adjusted the truss rod properly and correctly on my first try.
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#9
I only advise someone who obviously has no experience with it to take it to a tech for truss rod adjustments only. For setting intonation, fret work, etc. that is a little trickier for a novice. Even though I know how to do it I take my good guitars to a tech, preferably a luthier. I think everyone should learn how to do these things. Saves a lot of time and money long-term. Action is only affected by the neck relief if you like super low action with super light strings (as do I.) I usually get my frets planed initially for good measure. In general though it should not effect action. Without knowing more about a Thread Starter's experience I usually err on the side of caution when discussing truss rods. Actually everyone who posted previously on the page before me has some good points.
#10
Everyone screams at them to take it to a tech


That's because

1. Often we have no idea how much experience a person has in working on guitars or how well he or she can accurately and completely follow instructions. especially me since I'm fairly new to the site and not familiar with the regulars' experience and expertise.

2. Truss rods break easily, even if you do know what you're doing. A local tech here with at least 25 years experience broke one a few months ago trying to adjust a guitar, soon as he tried to move the adjusting nut it snapped. And he had oiled it the previous day just in case it was rusted or frozen. The guy definitely knows his stuff, he's the ONLY person in town I allow to touch my guitars. He's also taught me a few things I didn't know how to do, since I'm not familiar with a lot of major repairs, but I've been good at setups, maintenance and minor repairs for 20 years.

I feel it's always best to err on the side of caution when dealing with truss rods, they break easily and you have no idea whether the thread starter knows how to handle it or will follow instructions closely.

But as far as typical setups go, the truss rod rarely needs to be adjusted, and is not the primary means of adjusting action, that was my main point.
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#11
Quote by Paleo Pete
That's because

1. Often we have no idea how much experience a person has in working on guitars or how well he or she can accurately and completely follow instructions. especially me since I'm fairly new to the site and not familiar with the regulars' experience and expertise.

2. Truss rods break easily, even if you do know what you're doing. A local tech here with at least 25 years experience broke one a few months ago trying to adjust a guitar, soon as he tried to move the adjusting nut it snapped. And he had oiled it the previous day just in case it was rusted or frozen. The guy definitely knows his stuff, he's the ONLY person in town I allow to touch my guitars. He's also taught me a few things I didn't know how to do, since I'm not familiar with a lot of major repairs, but I've been good at setups, maintenance and minor repairs for 20 years.

I feel it's always best to err on the side of caution when dealing with truss rods, they break easily and you have no idea whether the thread starter knows how to handle it or will follow instructions closely.

But as far as typical setups go, the truss rod rarely needs to be adjusted, and is not the primary means of adjusting action, that was my main point.

I hear ya
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#12
I take mine to a tech so if my rod does break or something goes wrong, then it's not my fault. lol
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#13
I use the adjusting nut on my truss rod to fix all of my problems. All of them.
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#14
Isn't adjusting the action lowering or raising the strings? As where adjusting the truss rod would cause PART of the neck to bow towards or away from the strings?
#15
Quote by Generalpwnt
I use the adjusting nut on my truss rod to fix all of my problems. All of them.




I just see it now.

"Help, my pickups are way too low. How do I adjust them?"

"Adjust your truss rod until the neck bows the strings close enough to the pickups!"


"Help, I can't figure out how to use my wammy bar!"

"Just adjust the truss for the same effect!"
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#16
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Isn't adjusting the action lowering or raising the strings? As where adjusting the truss rod would cause PART of the neck to bow towards or away from the strings?

If there is too much of a bow then you can't get your strings low enough without having a dead spot. All necks are bowed slightly. But moving your bridge and filing the nut is also a big part of adjusting action depending on what kind of guitar you have.
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#17
I heard that if your truss rod is too loose just feed your guitar some Viagra.
#18
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I heard that if your truss rod is too loose just feed your guitar some Viagra.


I heard if you touch your truss rod too much, you'll grown hair on your palms and you'll go to hell.
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#19
yeah, but sometimes it's totally necessary to do it, of course, there's some really stupid people who thinks a trus rod is like a string, therefore, they ruin their guitars
#21
Quote by deluxity
yeah, but sometimes it's totally necessary to do it, of course, there's some really stupid people who thinks a trus rod is like a string, therefore, they ruin their guitars


lol, "yeah, I've had the guitar like two weeks, I need to change the truss rod, I took it out today but can't find a replacement one lol im n00b!"
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