#1
if I have $600 to spend on a guitar would I get better quality out of a high end epi or a lower end gibson? I was thinking epi les paul ultra vs. Gibson faded V or SG.
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Higher end epiphone.


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Get an edwards, Burny, or greco used off ebay. There about the same price as an epiphone but with the quality of a les paul standard. There awesome gibson clones.
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eh, i think the only epi's that play well are the elitist series, but they're up there in price. people say low-end gibsons are ****, but i have an '03 faded les paul that i'm playing right now and i love it to death.

not saying 'get it because it's a gibson' but from personal experience, they feel and play nicer.
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iunno, but that sg sounds sick
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if the faded sg plays like my faded les paul... hell yes.
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I have a faded gibson SG special, and I absolutely love it. I also tried some nicer SG epiphpones out before I got this. But i've heard a lot of people say that gibson has had some quality control issues with their lower ends like their faded series. But I think I got a good one...

But like someone said, play them both before you buy them. If you like the epiphones feel and tone then go with the epiphone
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iunno, but that sg sounds sick


QFT, a kid i know bought one, and under normal playing conditions, headstock snapped off within a few months of owning it.
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^ that sucks. big time.

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But i've heard a lot of people say that gibson has had some quality control issues with their lower ends like their faded series.

yeah really, the worst is with the les paul studios imo... they're god awful.
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It's all up to you. Epiphones play the same but feel slightly different to Gibsons. But higher end Epiphones like the Elitist series and Les Paul Classics are way better than the lower end Gibsons. The best Gibson you are gonna get for the lowest price is the Gibson Les Paul Standard and they are dramatically overpriced.

Overall, I'd give them a play and decide yourself. If you can't, go the high end Epiphone because it just owns the lower Gibsons tone-wise and playing-wise. Plus, the only difference is the wood (I think Epiphones use AA grade and Gibsons use AAA grade) and the components used like pcikups and saddle. The lower end Gibsons use almost identical components to the EPiphone but they still sound worse.

In conclusion, higher end Epiphone.
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My epi came stock with Gibson pickups (but mine was a Limited Edition) so if your elitist doesn't you def wanna change it to better pickups (this seems most important to me). Second is the nut, sometimes epi skips out on the nut an uses plastic [or other cheap s***] so you wanna replace that with something like corean (spelling?) [yes this does make a difference!!!!] Third, check the pots, switches and wiring, they tend to cheap out on those and there is nothing more annoying than scratchy pots. The only other thing after that is tuners if they are grovers, your ok, if not you may want to give that a change.,but after that, your up with a Gibson or better.

As far as the nock-off LP's go, though some are decent, i have played a Grecko, and it really did not feel nearly as nice as my epi, theres just something about the way it played that i didn't like, if felt wrong, i kinda felt the quality was lower, but this may be because i just didn't like the way it played like i said.
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^ that sucks. big time.


yeah really, the worst is with the les paul studios imo... they're god awful.



I have a les paul studio and it isn't that horrible.
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I have a les paul studio and it isn't that horrible.

ha that's good. you're like me then, with the fadeds anyway.
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I have a les paul studio and it isn't that horrible.

They're 'not horrible' if you cherry-pick the best of the bunch, and if you're not looking for something to be your #1 guitar for years to come.

Even then though, just 'not horrible' does not mean 'good', necessarily. I've played 3 Gibson LP studios, four Epi LP studios (including the limited edition with the Floyd Rose), and the only one that was really any good was the Epi with the FR. And I'm pretty sure that was only because since those were limited runs, they probably took a bit more care over them. The other Epi Studios though were utterly awful, and the Gibson ones were barely any better, nicer pickups but the construction was no better and the end result was still below-par.
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QFT, a kid i know bought one, and under normal playing conditions, headstock snapped off within a few months of owning it.


Wow, that sucks. I came into a dark house one night, drunk from a gig with armloads of gear and accidentally kicked my faded v off it's stand onto the floor. wasn't a light kick either. No damage. I can't imagine what might cause a headstock to spontaneously self destruct like that.
#18
LULZ@ THIS THREAD


get the Gibson V, add an OFR with a locking nut, and put in new pick ups and you got a deadly guitar.