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#1
Ive used the search bar so dont send me pictures of that dumbass book. I've seen several threads about 9/11 but nothing concerning the concerning theories. What are your thoughts on them UG? Im sure all of the dumbasses are going to hop onto the bandwagon and say bush is the worst president ever and have nothing to back it up with except for the fact that ashton ****ing kutcher said it... I have no idea of what to think about it because there are many points to back up both sides of the argument.

So Please, Discuss.
#2
i had no idea ashton kutcher said it was a conspiracy but from what i have seen and reseached i do believe it was an inside job.
#3
my guitar teacher was telling me about this today. i wasnt really listening..=/

EDIT: whoa..Gus. i didnt even realize it was you.

EDIT2: change your signature dick, i never said that.

EDIT3: on topic..i didnt hear anything about ashton kutcher. But ive been hearing from a countless amount of people that George Bush was illegally taking money from Saudi Arabia or something. Im not sureabout the story. But its been said that the government let the attack happen.
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#4
I've seen a thread or two about this.

Anyway, Maddox and Penn & Teller clear this theory up pretty nicely.
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#5
the only good thing about bush is hes hilarious to quote. worst thing hes a dumbass and ignores global warming. 9/11 conspiracy? nothing here
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#6
Funny that a Republican would talk about badmouthing someone with no viable claim...

Walked right into that one.
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#7
I'm 100% positive there was no conspiracy.

The things many of the "theories" purport on youtube videos, such as "omgz where did tha plane go dat hit da pentagon!!!!!!eleven!!11!" are either very inaccurate or with many facts left out.

Lurk moar, research good.
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#9
Oh god, I seriously want to punch people in the face when they think that the conspiracy theories are actually true.
#10
I've read all of the Loose change and other major conspiracy theories

Not a single one has given me the kind of proof I would need to believe it was a rigged event

all of Loose change's "evidence" such as the melting point of steel and the blast area on the Pentagon appear to be out of context bull****. I don't claim to be some omnipotent being and I wont tell you im without need of proof, 100% correct, but if someone wants to prove its a conspiracy they need to get someone with a brain to do it, Loose Change sounds like a college kid with too much time and not enough porn.


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the only good thing about bush is hes hilarious to quote. worst thing hes a dumbass and ignores global warming. 9/11 conspiracy? nothing here



please for the love of god, only post if you're going to sound like you have at least half of a functioning brain.
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#11
Bush is the worst president ever and not because Ashton Kutcher said it...


it's because Green Day said it.
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#12
I doubt the fact of a government coverup mainly because of the fact that its just some retard trying to get attention. The idea of a president wasting a couple thousand people to go invade the middle east is dumb. Yet i also feel that the entire idea could be possible
#13
Do we have to discuss 9/11 Everyweek on UG?

It wuz teh Nazis tehy Used thur Lazorz frum Hell 2 Attak teh Trade Centurs!1one.
#15
Quote by Garret.
Bush is the worst president ever and not because Ashton Kutcher said it...


it's because Green Day said it.





Though I don't agree with the theories I think it's kind of screwed how people are so quick to just completely flame the believers when stating your case would be sufficient. Flaming makes people hesitate to state there opinion, thus you wont be able to "enlighten" them. Also, conspiracy theorists are vital to this country, they always add that small bit of distrust to our government which prevents overnationalism.
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#16
Quote by KebertXela
I doubt the fact of a government coverup mainly because of the fact that its just some retard trying to get attention. The idea of a president wasting a couple thousand people to go invade the middle east is dumb. Yet i also feel that the entire idea could be possible


3000+ =/= a couple thousand

close but just a -few- thousand more lives off


the concept of the government doing this is completely irrational for one key thing : our govenment hasn't had a decent pair of cojones since the reagan administration (possibly earlier) they wouldn't have the stomach to pull this one off. In case you haven't noticed, politicians are so far up their own asses with political correctness that even saying "kill" around them induces a cold sweat and erectile dysfunction.
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#17
Quote by Synyster Gates
I've read all of the Loose change and other major conspiracy theories

Not a single one has given me the kind of proof I would need to believe it was a rigged event

all of Loose change's "evidence" such as the melting point of steel and the blast area on the Pentagon appear to be out of context bull****. I don't claim to be some omnipotent being and I wont tell you im without need of proof, 100% correct, but if someone wants to prove its a conspiracy they need to get someone with a brain to do it, Loose Change sounds like a college kid with too much time and not enough porn.


please for the love of god, only post if you're going to sound like you have at least half of a functioning brain.


Personally i beleive i have more than half a functioning brain if you wanted intellegent and thought invoking posts then gtfo of the pit.
also i only stated that bush was a crap president and i do not beleive any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories so ftw is with you?
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#19
Quote by Garret.
Bush is the worst president ever and not because Ashton Kutcher said it...


it's because Green Day said it.


rofl

No conspiracy, Bush has dyslexia (thats why he talks like an idiot, not trying to support him tho.), Clinton had many red flags including the bombing of a us ship (USS Cole) to warn of imminent attack, fock everyone who thinks its cool to hate Bush, get a goddamned life and opinion. Also, Bush, IMO was never suited to run for president to begin with due to his horrible public speaking skills and policies.

BTW, im not Republican or Democrat, so stfu if you call me an Ignorant Redneck or a pussy Demo. TY for listening

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#20
i think some conspiracy theories have good points, and weak points as well. what really concerns me is the fact that the government, in all its power (and the powers its taken from us) has failed to really explain what happened. they seem to just beat around the Bush (pun intended!), but never really giving any evidence that is at all more concrete than the evidence of conspiracy theories. i still have my questions, and until the government gives clear-cut, simple, believable, and complete reasons/explanations for what happened, without adding in a bunch of BS, that proves these theories wrong (or in the very least, explains what the hell happened). the book they published with the "answers" didnt really answer anything for me.
#21
For anyone thinking 9/11 was an excuse was an excuse to go after Bin Laden, you know nothing about post Persian Gulf history. Bin Laden had been sending us threatening tapes for years, going as far as to "declare war" in 1997. We didn't take him seriously, just like everyone else. If we wanted to go get him, we could have used his declaration of war as an excuse, to say the least.

Got THAT out of my system...
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#22
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Personally i beleive i have more than half a functioning brain if you wanted intellegent and thought invoking posts then gtfo of the pit.
also i only stated that bush was a crap president and i do not beleive any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories so ftw is with you?



go to the politics thread, i want you to go tell meths, slacker, dave mc , and vornik they are idiots because they post in the pit. do it now.


and second, I wasnt even talking about you're views on conspiracies related to 9/11

unless you can give me undisputable proof that even a blind and deaf person would have to believe that global warming will destroy us IN THIS LIFETIME or that of the generation afterwards, then don't start pissing and moaning about how bad he ignores it. on that point. who gives a **** what the president ignores, he has NO POWER, the president can veto a bill, whoop de do, congress can still outvote it and get it passed. over-ruling him. He can't declare war. can't enforce policies, all he can do is say "I agree or Disagree". Hate congress if you must hate someone up in the government.
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#24
Quote by KebertXela
i hate people who bash bush but have nothing to back it up with.

btw, REAGAN **** YEAH REAGAN!

Change your signature.
#25
-inserts the Hulk Hogan conspiracy theory picture here-

I couldn't find it...
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#26
Quote by rworsl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6987965.stm

Stop willing it to be a conspiracy, just accept the truth.


are you kidding me? one guy gives a title to his "explanation," and then all the article says is "in his calculations"... lol, thats ridiculous. i wont believe that guy until he is peer reviewed, over and over again.

and anyhow, even if he IS right, that doesnt explain EVERYTHING ELSE that happened on sept 11.... and a lot of **** happened, indeed.

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Also, conspiracy theorists are vital to this country, they always add that small bit of distrust to our government which prevents overnationalism.


agreed. we need SOMEONE to question the government, even if they end up being wrong. the times that they are right are more than enough to excuse them from being wrong at times.

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I doubt the fact of a government coverup mainly because of the fact that its just some retard trying to get attention.


a person? thousands of people have the same thoughts.
#27
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Change your signature.



evan, its a joke...

and why do you have picard as your avatar?
#28
Bush sucks, but I don't think this was an inside job. I'm pretty sure that the president wouldn't endanger his own country or the people of his country (purposefully) since he's supposed to be a christian, and y'know, "Thou shalt not kill".
#29
Quote by KebertXela
I doubt the fact of a government coverup mainly because of the fact that its just some retard trying to get attention. The idea of a president wasting a couple thousand people to go invade the middle east is dumb. Yet i also feel that the entire idea could be possible


well, i don't believe most of the 9/11 theories, but i do think that the CIA (and i'm not bashing president bush in this, because this doesn't involve him... yet) had intelligence and knew that there WOULD be an attack on the united states in the near future, and they did nothing to prevent it from happening.

i don't think president bush is corrupt and let the terrorist attacks happen. it wasn't necessarily his fault. i tend to disagree with a lot of his opinions, but i won't go so far as to blame him for something that obviously isn't his fault.

people just want to blame the president for every little thing. i figure, president bush has done enough damage to the united states without being blamed for things he didn't do.

and that's my rant for now...
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#30
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go to the politics thread, i want you to go tell meths, slacker, dave mc , and vornik they are idiots because they post in the pit. do it now.


and second, I wasnt even talking about you're views on conspiracies related to 9/11

unless you can give me undisputable proof that even a blind and deaf person would have to believe that global warming will destroy us IN THIS LIFETIME or that of the generation afterwards, then don't start pissing and moaning about how bad he ignores it. on that point. who gives a **** what the president ignores, he has NO POWER, the president can veto a bill, whoop de do, congress can still outvote it and get it passed. over-ruling him. He can't declare war. can't enforce policies, all he can do is say "I agree or Disagree". Hate congress if you must hate someone up in the government.


interesting im not a scientist so i dont know all the facts just as well as people who beleive in god and religion do not know everything im simply stated what i beleive should be looked at because i think that global warming is true. undisputable proof of anything is sometimes hard to come by because honestly i could doubt this entire world we live in is fake and we're all in the f***in matrix. AND unless you can find undesputable proof we are not then dont start to tell me we're not. im sorry i know that is completely irrational but it just shows that its hard to come by and prove or disprove many things.

as for congress i h8 most of the dumb government

" if pro is good and the opposite of con whats the opposite of congress?"
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#32
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Yeah, great way to respect 3,000 dead people. You guys piss me off.

Oh, and you lie about the search bar, or you just can't read.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=635756&highlight=9%2F11+conspiracy+theory

Believe it or not, i typed in "9/11 conspiracy theories" into the search bar. Fancy that.


Yeah and has anyone mentioned that more people die in one day from poor air quality than the 3000 who died in the towers.

"Air pollution kills eight thousand people every day worldwide, according to a recent international Commonwealth Science Council conference." -(http://www.csiro.au/files/mediarelease/mr1999/AirPollution.htm)

Yes, it was a tragity, but in the grade scheme of things, who really cares? Why do we focus on this every year?
#33
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are you kidding me? one guy gives a title to his "explanation," and then all the article says is "in his calculations"... lol, thats ridiculous. i wont believe that guy until he is peer reviewed, over and over again.

and anyhow, even if he IS right, that doesnt explain EVERYTHING ELSE that happened on sept 11.... and a lot of **** happened, indeed.


agreed. we need SOMEONE to question the government, even if they end up being wrong. the times that they are right are more than enough to excuse them from being wrong at times.


a person? thousands of people have the same thoughts.


Yes, but after Loose Change first edition hit the internetz 1,000s began to believe they were professionals in the fields of aircraft design, stuctural engineering, explosives, etc.

Edit: to aschaetter, because it was a terrorist attack maybe?
#34
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" if pro is good and the opposite of con whats the opposite of congress?"



thats totally retarded and i dont care who said it. They are two different words and one happens to have con in it
#36
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Bush sucks, but I don't think this was an inside job. I'm pretty sure that the president wouldn't endanger his own country or the people of his country (purposefully) since he's supposed to be a christian, and y'know, "Thou shalt not kill".


then again, look at pearl harbor and WWII. i honestly believe the government knew we would be attacked and let it happen so that the people of the U.S. would support the Allied efforts in WWII.
these are different times, and different scenarios, i know, but don't throw out the possibility. they say that history repeats itself...
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#37
Quote by ticklemeemo
I'm pretty sure that the president wouldn't endanger his own country or the people of his country (purposefully) since he's supposed to be a christian, and y'know, "Thou shalt not kill".


lol. "I'm a war president!"

i love that quote. bush is by far the most fun president to quote
#38
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then again, look at pearl harbor and WWII. i honestly believe the government knew we would be attacked and let it happen so that the people of the U.S. would support the Allied efforts in WWII.
these are different times, and different scenarios, i know, but don't throw out the possibility. they say that history repeats itself...


Like the US didn't have enough reasons to join in on WW2 in the first place...
#39
Quote by someguitarguy88
9/11 Conspiracy theories = Dog shit on a stick.

That's all I have to say about them.


next time provide something useful or perhaps intelligent even.

this goes for everyone who says "zOMgZ teh 9/11 cONspirAciEZ is trUUe!!! BuSh suCKz!! lOlZ"
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