#1
I need an amp that is cheap (under 200 would be real nice) but I know I won't get anything amazing. I need a amp that could handle metal and shred, be portable like lightweight and bus carriable, and also be loud enough for a auditorium of 1000 people (think church size). I know I will have to look used and these are the amps I have considered-

Crate Blue Voodoo
Vox Valvetronix XL
Palimino
A Laney model
Randall G3
Line 6 Spider 3 (from musiciansfriend, the metal channel isn't the worse)
Line 6 Vetta (used it was about 250

BTW, I live in NYC so if u see anything, post it here please.
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#3
Yeah It was on craigslist a while ago
BTW I'm talking USD
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#4
Get the vetta! you will not look back for that price. All the other amps are pitiful in comparison to the vetta. This one should be a no-brainer.
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#5
I'd say Roland Cube 60.

My old chemistry teacher and me played a gig once with a band at my old school for about 300-400 people (school auditorium, unmiced) and he had it on 3-4.

It's very light and cariable and great for metal.
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#7
Grab a Vetta if you can at that price. A lot of times you can find an old 212 Crate solid state combo (1980's) which are very loud and don't sound bad for $50-$150. Some of them are not reliable however. Old solid state 212's in general go pretty cheap.
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Maybe you could look for a used Laney VC30, that should be loud enough. (i think)

Sounds like good advice, Mr. Soon-to-own-a-VC. Or look into the LC's too. and 200 what? elephants? ducks? mexicans?
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#11
Oh I'm talking USD.
And sorry guys, its a flextone not a vetta
Yeah I know big difference
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#12
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Maybe you could look for a used Laney VC30, that should be loud enough. (i think)

Its a great amp, but it doesnt quite have the metal and shred voicing the TS is after. A used LC30 would be better as it has higher gain and a more modern sound. That's all I can think at the moment
#14
I would still go for the flextone. $250 is a good deal and it isn't a bad amp
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#15
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could those handle metal and shred

What little experience I have with Fender amps suggests no, but I've never tried those particular models so its possible, but I highly doubt it.
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#16
yo man check the Line 6 Spider II's. The spider III's are put together so poorly, and if you wanna shred, the Spider II has what you need and more. You get complete tonal control over everything, and since it's a solid state, you never have to worry about replacing tubes. If you look on ebay, you can get a spider II HD150 (150 watt) HEAD!! from any where between $100 and $300. and the spider II cabs roll with 4 12" custom celestions that you'll never blow. think about savin up cause the line 6 Spider II is well worth it. Check the deals on ebay, and craigslist. Later
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yo man check the Line 6 Spider II's. The spider III's are put together so poorly, and if you wanna shred, the Spider II has what you need and more. You get complete tonal control over everything, and since it's a solid state, you never have to worry about replacing tubes. If you look on ebay, you can get a spider II HD150 (150 watt) HEAD!! from any where between $100 and $300. and the spider II cabs roll with 4 12" custom celestions that you'll never blow. think about savin up cause the line 6 Spider II is well worth it. Check the deals on ebay, and craigslist. Later


You contradict yourself in the second sentance. Also, you're terribly wrong. Spiders sound awful for anything but bedroom practise (even that can be sketchy) as they become so feedback prone when turned up and lose any hint of tone you had originally. Valve amps need servicing every couple of years, hardly a big deal. Also, the Spider cabs are poorly made with cheap "Celestion designed" speakers that sound dross. A better quality combo is a much better bet.

The Flextone seems a good bet, TS, it's a good price if you can get it for what you saw it for.
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You contradict yourself in the second sentance. Also, you're terribly wrong. Spiders sound awful for anything but bedroom practise (even that can be sketchy) as they become so feedback prone when turned up and lose any hint of tone you had originally. Valve amps need servicing every couple of years, hardly a big deal. Also, the Spider cabs are poorly made with cheap "Celestion designed" speakers that sound dross. A better quality combo is a much better bet.

The Flextone seems a good bet, TS, it's a good price if you can get it for what you saw it for.


+1 to everything you said, including the buying of the Flextone.
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#20
cheap, portable, lightweight, and loud? sounds like the crate powerblock to me. now of course the tone is kinda blah and isnt good for much other then a clean tone, but throw a nice pedal in front of it and it can sound good enough for metal. only thing is that it requires that the venue has a pa or at least a cab you can use. but for portable power, not much to beat it. and you can always use it as a backup when you get a better amp later.
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Those fenders can play metal?


You wanted loud and cheap, I responded.

I'm not personally familiar with either amp, although the Performer gets positive reviews for it's gain. You throw a good distortion pedal in front of either one, and you'll probably be doing ok.
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#22
Surely a gig in a 1000+ seater auditorium will have a PA? In which case you don't actually need to worry about the power of your amp so much and can concentrate on choosing something that sounds good.
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Surely a gig in a 1000+ seater auditorium will have a PA?.


Haha, yeah. I can see it now. A thousand metalheads and shred lovers sitting down nicely in a church.

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Here's the cheapest Peavey Classic 50 I've ever seen, and it's sitting in Queens waiting for an offer.

Probably beat to hell, but you aren't gonna do much better than that for loud and cheap!


Those Peavey classics work great with distortion pedals. You should definalty be able to pull a liquid gain out of it with the Line 6 uber metal or Metal Muff.

I would recommend a Flextone II if you're going for more metal oriented, a Flextone III if you want more versatility.
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#26
Ok. Thanks alot guys. I'll problable go for the Peavey
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#27
Quote by Kurapica
You contradict yourself in the second sentance. Also, you're terribly wrong. Spiders sound awful for anything but bedroom practise (even that can be sketchy) as they become so feedback prone when turned up and lose any hint of tone you had originally. Valve amps need servicing every couple of years, hardly a big deal. Also, the Spider cabs are poorly made with cheap "Celestion designed" speakers that sound dross. A better quality combo is a much better bet.

The Flextone seems a good bet, TS, it's a good price if you can get it for what you saw it for.



I'm sure flextone's are good, but for the price, spiders are where you want to go. I believe that flextones are ok if you have a big wallet and want to look, instead of sound good. this post is "LOUD amp for CHEAP" hands down, for the money, spiders are your best bet.
#28
There is no way you can play for 1000 people with a small combo. It just inst possible.

Rather, its possible, BUT no one will be able to hear you after the first few rows of people.

Having said that, you better hope theres a PA system for you to run through, otherwise youre hosed, TBH. I mean, Ive played shows like that with my JCM900 unmicd, it was barely loud enough for everyone in the back to hear. See, its not a matter of whether its loud enough or not, its a matter of how well EVERYONE can hear it, not just the people in the front. You want something that can spread sound throughout the room as evenly as possible. Otherwise youll be blasting the ppl in the very front, but bodies soak up sound waves like sponges do to water, and the ppl in the back wont hear anything but the snare drum.
#29
I dunno how the Crate GT212 sounds, but maybe someone else here knows... they have a blem one at zzounds for $165. it is 120 watts and 2 12" speakers. Just throwin it out there because you said cheap and loud...


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