#1
I was talking to Dave MC about which pickups I should put in my RG550, and he said I might have better luck asking here.

Anyways, I'm looking to replace my pickups in my RG550, and I want to get a tone similiar to John Petrucci's. I play through a B-52 AT100, a JCM 2000 DSL. Anyone got any suggestions?
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#3
he uses/d dimarzio pups right? simple air norton and tone zone.

but those pups are all over the place and i dont think everyone sounds like him, so i have to think a lot of it has to do with how he plays and the rest of his gear?

anyway, i think id start at the dimarzio web site.
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I don't listen to enough Dream Theater, and haven't done so recently...but I'm going to post in here so I get subscribed, and I'll go listen to some at my buddies' place or something and figure something out.

EDIT: jenny might be onto something, if those ARE the pickups he uses. You have to remember that Petrucci uses Mesa Boogie amps, as well.

I did a quick Wiki so you can even see the variation of amplifiers he's used.
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yeah, i mean i think what you want is a quite modern/brightish but not too hot neck pickup (so it's not muddy for shredding, but not too hot either), and a reasonably hot bridge pickup, but which again isn't over the top but which isn't bright/shrill either. you definitely don't want mud either, though. He's using pretty modern high gain amps, his pickups are giving them a bit of help, but i think it's mainly the amp (and obviously his fingers).

Just I'm not really sure of suggestions for dimarzios... i haven't tried the drop sonic, unfortunately. i'd say you could do worse than a tone zone/air norton, but the tone zone can veer towards mud if you aren't careful, and also the drop sonic may do it better.
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D-Sonic has more definition than the Tone Zone...ceramic magnet and all that. It's a bit more clinical too - better for rhythm stuff. The Tone Zone is a lead players wet dream but it's not very forgiving and the midrangeyness can be a bit much at time. It's hilarious fun if you're in the mood for it though.
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D sonic is good in the bridge (obviously) Tone Zone has too much mids and gets muddy with gain. Won't be so good for all the rthym stuff he does too.

Paf pro in the neck is good. Great soloing tone. Breed would be good too if you want a bit more warmth and a weebit more gain.
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air norton is warmer than the paf pro and slightly less modern/more versatile sounding. basically, for more shred, the paf pro is possibly slightly better, for more classic tones (and still good shred tones), the air norton is possibly slightly better.

from what i can remember.
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So everything is slightly better than everything else ^? You'll need to clarify that.
#12
JP also used Steve's Special, but I'm not sure it'll be better than the D-Sonic for rhythms, seems more like a soloing pickup.
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So everything is slightly better than everything else ^? You'll need to clarify that.



haha, ok.

for out and out shred in the neck position, the paf pro is possibly slightly better.

for more classic tones, and less shred, the AN is possibly slightly better.

but it's preference too, i'd probably prefer the AN for almost everything, as long as the guitar wasn't muddy.
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Well he used a Steve's Special and Air Norton in his early Ibanez guitars. Then he switched to EBMM guitars and had DiMarzio make special pickups for him, based on the Steve's Special and Air Norton. According to the DiMarzio FAQ, these pickups are the closest production models if you want the same pickups as John.

Lately he's been using a D-Sonic aswell, in his mahogany bodied guitars (the earlier ones were made of Basswood, and I'd imagine your Ibanez is aswell).