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#1
my gear sounds great when i'm practicing in the bedroom and jamming along to my stereo. but when i go for band practise i have to turn up to be audible over drums.

the only problem is it just doesn't work.

either i am turned up loud enough to be audible over drums, and still provide a decent sound, but i get absolutely horrible feedback.

or i turn down low enough to still be heard over drums, without feedback, but sound like absolute crap.

and last, i can turn down so i dont get feedback, and get that great tone, but you can't hear it over drums.

i don't know what's doing it, it would be great if i could get some help.

none of my gear is any professional stuff, because i don't really have much money and am lucky to have this stuff.

my amp is this
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my guitar would be anothing cheapo off of ebay, it has arina labeled on the top but no one has ever heard of them. the local music store said it might be faulity pick up wiring, i'm taking it to get checked tomorrow.

i'm running it through a behringer ultra metal pedal.

and before you ask, i'm standing a good part away from the amp. and i do get a buzzing sound when playing with distortion, but it's nothing like the horrible feedback i'm getting when i turn up.
#3
I have that exact same amp and problem.
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#4
haha!

faulty amps then.

well my birthday is november 4th, hopefully i can convince my parents to get that vox amp i love.
#5
try not so much distortion? i dunno.. that sucks dude
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#6
Quote by BFun
try not so much distortion? i dunno.. that sucks dude


i have, it just makes it sound really like, thacky and i get no sustain at all

it's not cool.

it's mostly my guitar volume that ****s up, not the amps, but once it reaches a certain volume with ANY of the controls, it goes haywire.

by guitar volume i mean the colume knob on my guitar, i have to keep it around 3-4, any higher i get a little bit more crunch but alot of feedback, 10 (which i ussually keep it on) gives me that great tone but the feedback is unbearable, i almost went deaf today...
#7
Have you got Single Coils because they may not be shielded properly.
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#8
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Have you got Single Coils because they may not be shielded properly.


i do have single coils, and i'm going to get them checked tomorrow.

i do believe it's a combination of guitar and amp that make it, because there's also this wierd thing where when i change my pick ups with the pick up selector, i get a feedback sound with a tiny bit of my guitar in the background, but once i turn amp on and off it goes back to normal
#9
To shield them I only think it takes gluing a bit of tinfoil on the underside of your scratch plate, but I may be wrong wait for some confirmation.
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#10
turn the volume down
turn the gain down
stand further away from your amp
get a better amp

i think that's all you can do.
#11
shield your guitar. the reality though is that at high volumes theres always going to be a chance of feedback. so work on controlling it.
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#12
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turn the volume down
turn the gain down
stand further away from your amp
get a better amp

i think that's all you can do.


Yeah, short of getting a new amp, there's not a lot you can do. The amp'll sound louder if you get it off the ground (so the sound is projecting at ear level rather than knee level). I suggest you put it on a chair behind your drummer until he gets the idea to hit a little more softly. Try to keep your guitar from facing the amp, too.
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#13
All you can really do is get a larger amp. Failing that, mic it through a PA if you use one.
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#14
well unfortunately i dont

i'ts at ear level, i've tried facing the amp away so that the guitar isn't really facing it kinda, but that didn't help much. thanks for all the help.

could someone tell me more about this shielding?
#16
not quite sure.

when just sitting around i get a kind of raspy sound, kinda like screwed up frequencys, but it's not.

when i get high volume i get alot of high pitched, non stop squeals. if i put my hand on the strings it stops, but then comes back a few seconds later.
#17
yep you should consider something louder. you cant obiously expect an amp on 10 with no noise. also experiment with amp placing/cables.
#19
like i said earlier, feedback is always going to be a problem with high volume and high gain. but by practicing, you can figure out how to make it less of one.
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#21
well i took my guitar around and played into some other amps, it all works fine with no feedback at high volumes at all.

so it is my amp, but i might be getting a marshall 40 watt soon so yeah, thanks anyways guys.
#22
NO!!!!!!!

Go for a tube combo. A 50 watt tube combo would be PLENTY for that sort of situation. A 40 watt marshall? Let me guess an MG? Dont skimp on the amp. Get something half decent and all your problems will go away. tell us how much you could spend and we shall point you in the right direction.
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#23
Quote by Ashdownlover
NO!!!!!!!

Go for a tube combo. A 50 watt tube combo would be PLENTY for that sort of situation. A 40 watt marshall? Let me guess an MG? Dont skimp on the amp. Get something half decent and all your problems will go away. tell us how much you could spend and we shall point you in the right direction.


that's the thing, at most i could spend 140 bucks.

and the only place i'll be getting an amp like that is at cash converters, so it's a limited range.
#24
What is "cash converters" ?

I highly recommend you put that $140 in a safe place and do not spend it until you can put another $140 next to it. then take the $280 and try to get a cheap but good tube amp. Maybe a palomino or epiphone.

Until you are able to save up close to $300, you can just buck up and put up with what you have now. Tolerate the intolerable solution now until you can fix it.

Better than spending your money on another intolerable solution.
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#25
I don't think you're gonna get anything decent for band practice with 140$, better save
#27
You need to get a noise gate to put between your guitar and amp.. also get a decnt amp lol
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#28
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well my birthday is november 4th, hopefully i can convince my parents to get that vox amp i love.

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#29
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What is "cash converters" ?

A second hand shop in the UK
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#30
to all you who say "save up" that is impossible.

i get no money at all from anything and i'm too young to get a job. (and please, don't say "i'm sure you can find something! check your paper!")

the only way i'd be getting an amp is my mum buying one and she'd never go over 150.

i've looked up mg amps and i can't find the one i played on there so i don't think it's an mg.

bottom of the line is i will probably be getting this amp, but i'm interested, what is a noise gate and how much are they?
#31
why don't you go for Orange Tiny Terror ?
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#32
Quote by finalzz
why don't you go for Orange Tiny Terror ?


i looked it up, and it seems absolutely perfect.

problem is, i don't know much about amps, but i know they come with either heads, cabs, or combos, and the tiny terror is just a head. which means i'll still need to get a decent cab... i think?
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#33
^The Tiny Terror is 600 dollars for the head alone....

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to all you who say "save up" that is impossible.

i get no money at all from anything and i'm too young to get a job. (and please, don't say "i'm sure you can find something! check your paper!")

the only way i'd be getting an amp is my mum buying one and she'd never go over 150.

i've looked up mg amps and i can't find the one i played on there so i don't think it's an mg.

bottom of the line is i will probably be getting this amp, but i'm interested, what is a noise gate and how much are they?

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It is NOT impossible. Ask your neighbors for odd jobs, like mowing the lawn, or painting crap. Ask your parents for extra money to do difficult chores, like cleaning your gutters, or the garage...Have a garage sale...Open a lemonade stand.
If you're not will to spend at least 300-500 dollars, you're not going to get a decent amp capable of gigging. Trust me. You'll be going from one ****ty amp to another ****ty amp.

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#34
australia, victoria to be exact.

and you don't know the kind of situation i'm in. my parents have there own problems (i'll leave it there) and all of the neighbours hate us (i'll leave that there too)

allthough i "could" be getting a job at the local iga (like a food place) from a family friend but they never replied, so i'm guessing that's a bad sign.

today i'm heading back around to the music shop, and would be nice to know a little more about these 'noise gates'

and also, thanks for the help.
#35
Why is everyone saying to buy a new amp when all he needs is a noise reduction pedal (ISP Decimator is the best)? Hi-gain amps at high volumes always get lots of feedback, you need a noise reduction for this, sure the amp probably isn't the best, but buying a new amp isn't going to fix his problem, he'll still get tons of feedback at higher volumes with that amp, even if it's tube.

TS, even if you do decide to buy a new amp, it'd be wise to invest in a noise reduction pedal, ISP Decimator to be exact, as I said before, or you'll just run into the same problem.

*edit* Don't buy another noise suppressor besides the ISP Decimator, it won't suck your tone like others, thus, it's the best one you can buy, maybe a little more than other's but WELL worth it, trust me.
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#36
boss noise supressor pedal?
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#39
i have no idea what's going on anymore, the local music shop said it might be pickups, this guitarist in my street reckons it's the pedal (it's only a 50$ behringer but it gets the job done fine) and you guys reckon it's the amp.

i played at school and i got some feedback with there amps when playing loud enough to be heard over drums but nowhere near as bad.

i think my best bet is a noise reduction pedal, thanks MatrixClaw.

i just found out they are around 50$, so i could trade in my multi fx pedal and then just get another 20 or so bucks and i'm set.

edit: yes i'm getting a cheap pedal, i don't have much choice.

thanks guys, i'll let you know how it turns out.
#40
as i said before, lots of volume and lots of gain will cause feedback. thats how it is. people saying 'omg get a valve amp' are missing the point. if you play at high volumes with high gain through a valve amp, you'll still get feedback. a noise suppressor will help, but there are downsides to them. like i said, its about practising controlling feedback too.

if you want an easier solution, turn down the gain on your ultra metal. but if you arent willing to do that, you're going to have to accept feedback as something you'll have to work to overcome.
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