#1
What are the chances that the Libertines ever reunite and successfully make another album? I put it at 60%, call me optimistic, but that live set Pete and Carl did a few months back made me think of the old days.

If you don't know the Libertines, check them out here:

http://www.thelibertines.org.uk/
#3
Just got the S/T album yesterday.

Ruddy brilliant, i'm generally not into this indie scene. But these guys are (were) great.
#4
Quote by gallagher2006
Meh. I hope they stay apart. Babyshambles are better than the Libs anyways. Much more experimental and free.

And way more uneven.

Personally I'd love a reunion. I wouldn't like it year 2020, though. If they're going to reunite, they ought to do it now or in the near future. People kind of dismiss their second album, but I thought it showed great promise for the future.
#5
Quote by gallagher2006
Meh. I hope they stay apart. Babyshambles are better than the Libs anyways. Much more experimental and free.


No, see the problem with babyshambles is they make some pretty good stuff, but their experimental stuff is terrible (Pentonville, Monkey Casino) With the Libertines you had a sense of true energy, they always sounded like they were just about to fall apart and then at the last second, they pull everything together. Babyshambles just sounds like they are falling apart. Thats what I think anyway.

Pete needs Carl to make brilliant music, and Carl needs Pete, it was always that way and it will always be that way.
#6
Quote by LikelyLads
No, see the problem with babyshambles is they make some pretty good stuff, but their experimental stuff is terrible (Pentonville, Monkey Casino) With the Libertines you had a sense of true energy, they always sounded like they were just about to fall apart and then at the last second, they pull everything together. Babyshambles just sounds like they are falling apart. Thats what I think anyway.

Pete needs Carl to make brilliant music, and Carl needs Pete, it was always that way and it will always be that way.

I concur.

EDIT: Welcome to the forum by the way.
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#7
What about these Libertines? (They're actually really good, but not who you are talking about, I know).

As for the 'other' Libertines, I wouldn't mind a reunion at all. Babyshambles are just okay, really.
#8
I'm going to go a bit "out there" and say that the best band to come out of the Libertines breakup is Yeti (bassist John's band). Album coming soon apparently.
#9
I dont want it to happen to be honest. I prefer Dirty Pretty Things over the libs and babyshambles. Plus I think petes a pillack
#10
Quote by Bluesbreaker7
I'm going to go a bit "out there" and say that the best band to come out of the Libertines breakup is Yeti (bassist John's band). Album coming soon apparently.

You choose the least popular band. I salute you for your indie-ness.

Personally I haven't heard Yeti. I've only heard the Shambles and DPT. What are they like?
#11
My favourite of their songs is called "Never Lose Your Sense of Wonder". More poppy (i.e. hummable melodies etc.) than the Libs, DPT or Babyshambles, with a kind of Byrds-ian guitar part on it. It's good.

eta: you can dowload a BBC session version here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A3812807
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#12
Babyshambles could be a decent band if Pete wasn't up to his neck in drug problems.
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#14
Quote by LikelyLads
No, see the problem with babyshambles is they make some pretty good stuff, but their experimental stuff is terrible (Pentonville, Monkey Casino) With the Libertines you had a sense of true energy, they always sounded like they were just about to fall apart and then at the last second, they pull everything together. Babyshambles just sounds like they are falling apart. Thats what I think anyway.

Pete needs Carl to make brilliant music, and Carl needs Pete, it was always that way and it will always be that way.


+1!
babyshambles and dpt have a few good songs each but carl and pete need each other to make the just ok songs of theirs rise to greatness

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#16
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I dont want it to happen to be honest. I prefer Dirty Pretty Things over the libs and babyshambles. Plus I think petes a pillack


But BPT isn't as good as the Libertines, because all of their music is going 100 mph all the time, and it never slows down, whereas in the Libertines, you have songs like Radio America, Tell the King, and France where you can appreciate how Pete and Carl slow down the songs but still keep them feeling raw and sloppy.

As for Pete being a pillack, I guess thats true, but you kinda have to feel bad for him, don't you?
#17
Quote by LikelyLads
But BPT isn't as good as the Libertines, because all of their music is going 100 mph all the time, and it never slows down, whereas in the Libertines, you have songs like Radio America, Tell the King, and France where you can appreciate how Pete and Carl slow down the songs but still keep them feeling raw and sloppy.

As for Pete being a pillack, I guess thats true, but you kinda have to feel bad for him, don't you?

Yeah, I know I do.

To me it just seems as if Babyshambles (IE Pete) took all the sloppiness and the "poetic" kind of stuff while DPT took all the structure and the musicially good stuff, kinda. If you combine all that you get The Libertines. That's how I've always seen it.
#20
Quote by European Son
Yeah, I know I do.

To me it just seems as if Babyshambles (IE Pete) took all the sloppiness and the "poetic" kind of stuff while DPT took all the structure and the musicially good stuff, kinda. If you combine all that you get The Libertines. That's how I've always seen it.


Exactly right.

Also, in my opinion, Pete brings the Smiths-type influence and Carl is more of a Clash guy. Which mixed together is great. 'Shambles and DPT are individually okay bands but nothing special like TL.
#22
i hold a grudge against them because i feel like they are the reason we have the arctic monkeys and the whole brit pop 2.0 thing going on
#23
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i hold a grudge against them because i feel like they are the reason we have the arctic monkeys and the whole brit pop 2.0 thing going on

They are. I wouldn't say Arctic Monkeys are a part of that, though. They are influenced by them, but they're the least Libertines rip-off band that of all those bands (The View are a perfect example of a complete Libs rip-off). I think the AM would have "made it" without the Libertines, to be honest.

And frankly I find it a bit childish of you to accuse the Libertines of all the rip-offs. It's not like they personally create them. Just ignore the rip-offs and focus on the essential, instead.
#24
i never said the music was bad, i just blame them for opening the market for all the rip offs
#25
Quote by uhh_me?
i never said the music was bad, i just blame them for opening the market for all the rip offs

I know. I still find it a bit strange.
#26
Pete and the Babyshambles have some moments of pure genius, but Down in Albion is just generally more uneven, where as DPT tunes are all polished and pretty good but nothing truly stands out as brilliant. The Libertines were a perfect mix in that way. I would fly over to Britan if they got back together. I can't honestly pick between the two albums. The Man Who Would Be King is one of my favorites songs ever, and other than say Arbeit Mach Frei, The Saga, and Road to Ruin I pretty much love all the songs.

hmm. I sure hope they reuinte, but they better do it soon.
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#27
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Pete and the Babyshambles have some moments of pure genius, but Down in Albion is just generally more uneven, where as DPT tunes are all polished and pretty good but nothing truly stands out as brilliant. The Libertines were a perfect mix in that way. I would fly over to Britan if they got back together. I can't honestly pick between the two albums. The Man Who Would Be King is one of my favorites songs ever, and other than say Arbeit Mach Frei, The Saga, and Road to Ruin I pretty much love all the songs.

hmm. I sure hope they reuinte, but they better do it soon.

Down in albion could have easily been cut to about 12-13 tracks, but the DPT album is essentially a Libs album without Pete singing most of the songs...IE, Carl didn't progress at all =]