#2
The original Edge series would be the easiest I imagine, since they're basically clones of the OFR. Beyond that, the newer Edge series trems might need a little more work but unless it's a ZR trem, I can't see why it would be overly difficult.

However, Ibanez trems like the Edge Pro and ZR are on par, if not better than OFRs.
#5
Quote by rocabillyrollup
I hear bad things about the edge trem, but is the edge pro better?

Edge pro is a very nice trem. Similiar in feel to an OFR, allows you to use strngs without cutting of the ball ends.
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#6
An Edge Pro is a low profile version of the OFR. Its the best Ibanez trem currently.
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#7
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The original Edge series would be the easiest I imagine, since they're basically clones of the OFR. Beyond that, the newer Edge series trems might need a little more work but unless it's a ZR trem, I can't see why it would be overly difficult.

However, Ibanez trems like the Edge Pro and ZR are on par, if not better than OFRs.


LOL, yeah right.

ZR bridges are on 400$ guitars, while OFRs are own 2000$ guitars.

OFR stays in tune the best, it might have a few pains and aches like setup etc. is harder but it's worth it. It isn't hard especially if you know what you're doing.
#8
This thread is full of cruel and unusual misleading statements.

Original Edge is not a clone of OFR, it's a substantially different design, with different geometry, and the two are not interchangeable.

The newer Ibanez trems (by which I mean Edge III) actually don't need any work to swap with OFR (or a teeny bit of work for a perfect swap).

Nobody in their sane mind should say bad things about the Edge, it's a fantastic machine. As mentioned, Edge III et al are different.

Edge Pro is at least as well-made as the previous generation of Ibanez high-end bridges. Whether it's head and shoulders above them is entirely up to the user.

Edge Pro is in no way a low profile version of the OFR. It's not any version of OFR at all. The only thing in common between the two is that both are fulcrum double locking tremolos. The features are way different.

ZR keeps tune really well thanks to its design, not quality of manufacturing. The latter is actually pretty laughable (in my opinion). But it allows for a lower cost than a quality fulcrum trem.
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#9
Quote by nan0
LOL, yeah right.

ZR bridges are on 400$ guitars, while OFRs are own 2000$ guitars.

OFR stays in tune the best, it might have a few pains and aches like setup etc. is harder but it's worth it. It isn't hard especially if you know what you're doing.

Jesus, be a fanboy much?

ZR bridges are different to fulcrum bridges like the OFR and edge pro. The ZR is more similiar to a kahler.

You'll find ZR on high end guitars as well as finding OFRs on cheaper guitars.
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#10
Quote by pifty
It's not any version of OFR at all. The only thing in common between the two is that both are fulcrum double locking tremolos. The features are way different.
Thats not true either

The Edge pro is basically a redesign of the OFR. Its more akin to a Speedloader just with normal strings.

The features are all applicable on a floyd as well, except for the ball end acceptance.


On the other hand, the Edge pro looks much sleeker than the OFR in their respective chrome designs
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#11
Quote by pifty
This thread is full of cruel and unusual misleading statements.

Original Edge is not a clone of OFR, it's a substantially different design, with different geometry, and the two are not interchangeable.

The newer Ibanez trems (by which I mean Edge III) actually don't need any work to swap with OFR (or a teeny bit of work for a perfect swap).

Nobody in their sane mind should say bad things about the Edge, it's a fantastic machine. As mentioned, Edge III et al are different.

Edge Pro is at least as well-made as the previous generation of Ibanez high-end bridges. Whether it's head and shoulders above them is entirely up to the user.

Edge Pro is in no way a low profile version of the OFR. It's not any version of OFR at all. The only thing in common between the two is that both are fulcrum double locking tremolos. The features are way different.

ZR keeps tune really well thanks to its design, not quality of manufacturing. The latter is actually pretty laughable (in my opinion). But it allows for a lower cost than a quality fulcrum trem.


i agree.
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#12
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Thats not true either

The Edge pro is basically a redesign of the OFR. Its more akin to a Speedloader just with normal strings.

The features are all applicable on a floyd as well, except for the ball end acceptance.

then it's more akin to the speedloader not the OFR.

your just thinking of floyd rose made trems to be OFRs whereas this isnt true. only the original is an OFR.

people use that term far too much.

Quote by nan0
LOL, yeah right.

ZR bridges are on 400$ guitars, while OFRs are own 2000$ guitars.

OFR stays in tune the best, it might have a few pains and aches like setup etc. is harder but it's worth it. It isn't hard especially if you know what you're doing.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/ibanez-s-3620-fm/11247

that's about $2300


http://www.zzounds.com/item--SCEC1FRHR

just a quick look and there is the OFR on a $799 guitar.

your point = invalid

plus the ZR won't wear out and lose it's tuning stability after a few years as it has no knife edges to wear down.
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#13
And it's nothing similar to the Speedloader either.
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#14
meh.

not an expert on trems but can still notice obvious mistakes
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#15
yeah i mean the edge pro is like a slightly different very low profile trem.
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#16
Quote by nan0
LOL, yeah right.

ZR bridges are on 400$ guitars, while OFRs are own 2000$ guitars.

OFR stays in tune the best, it might have a few pains and aches like setup etc. is harder but it's worth it. It isn't hard especially if you know what you're doing.


dude, what the **** is your problem? you have to post a load of bull**** in every thread?

you can get an OFR on a cheap guitar. you can get a ZR on an expensive one. just shut the **** up commenting on stuff you obviously know nothing about.

And the Edge Pro isn't even Licensed under Floyd Rose. It's totally different.
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#17
Quote by nan0
LOL, yeah right.

ZR bridges are on 400$ guitars, while OFRs are own 2000$ guitars.

OFR stays in tune the best, it might have a few pains and aches like setup etc. is harder but it's worth it. It isn't hard especially if you know what you're doing.

Dave Weiner and Herman Li are using ZRs on their new customs, shows how ****ty they are.
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#18
Edge pro is completely different. Slightly similar to the Floyd Rose pro model but not really.

Edge is one of the best trems out there. I and others prefer it to OFRs.

ZR is a good trem. Stays in tune great. I just have the feeling of it (but if you remove the ZPS bar it's fine)

Just watch out for Ibanez Lo Trs, Lo Trs II, Edge pro II, Edge II, and Edge III
#19
guys, what exactly is a knife edge? I have seen pics of trems but I dont know which is the knife edge
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#20
There are 2 posts in the top of your guitar the trem rests against. The part of the trem that rests on the posts are the knifes. Go find a pic or sumthing.
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#21
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guys, what exactly is a knife edge? I have seen pics of trems but I dont know which is the knife edge
The knife edge is the part which comes in contact with the stud.

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#22
Ah I was correct then. I saw many trems and noticed that those part were worn out so I suspected that they were the knife edges. What happens when is does wear off completely?
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#24
Quote by areola
Ah I was correct then. I saw many trems and noticed that those part were worn out so I suspected that they were the knife edges. What happens when is does wear off completely?


When it wears out completely, the trem is usually long in the garbage bin. Any kind of wear on the knife edge is an impediment to tuning.

Essentially, the trem posts have cusps, in which the blade of the knife edge sits. The whole thing is designed in a way that with pressure (applied by strings and trem springs), the trem knife edge always fits perfectly into the cusp of the trem post with minimal contact area (thus it's a sharp knife edge). As long as it's sharp, the trem will always return to the same position after you move it.

Now, the knife edge gets dull, and there's no longer that minimal contact area between the trem and the post. Friction disturbs the balance beteen the tension of the springs and the strings (and it's a very gentle balance, that's why tuning a floyd can be a bother). Every time you move the trem, it no longer returns to the same position unimpeded (TYVM friction). The result is that after a whammy move, you're off pitch. So you move your fine tuners a bit until it's good. Then you move your trem. Bam! Off pitch again. Then you get frustrated and buy a good guitar. Something you should have done in the first place.
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#25
^ yep.

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