#1
I need all this but dont want to buy overpriced US amps. I would rather have a dark tone, inbuilt reverb and noise gate, midi capable footswitching, parallel and series fx loop preferably 50w and 3 channels

What options of amps do i have. I could spend aroud £1300/e1800?
Last edited by ibanezed at Sep 21, 2007,
#2
Check out an H&K Switchblade...or maybe one of these Line 6 Spider Valves whenever they come out.
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#3
i'm going to have to agree, try out the Switchblade
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engls are way too bright for me..is it possible to get them modded?. i know with the circutry some amp manufactures like Laney are very difficult and expensive to mod.
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Diezel, Framus?
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With all the stuff you want,it would probably be best to go rack.
That way you have way more options,and its more customizable.
#11
i hated the switchblade when i tried it. you might as well try it though, as you may disagree.

built-in noise gate is tricky, engl are the only guys i know of who do that. then again, you could just buy a decimator, so it's not like it's a deal-breaker if you ask me.

i'd probably check out diezel, framus and koch. cornford too, though they aren't as modern sounding (great tone though), and may be a little bright for you. brunetti xlr-evo would also be sweet, i believe it's £1300.

EDIT: if you like dark, might as well try a genz benz el-diablo too. make sure you try it, though, loads of people hate it. it is american, but it's under budget.
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i hated the switchblade when i tried it. you might as well try it though, as you may disagree.

built-in noise gate is tricky, engl are the only guys i know of who do that. then again, you could just buy a decimator, so it's not like it's a deal-breaker if you ask me.

i'd probably check out diezel, framus and koch. cornford too, though they aren't as modern sounding (great tone though), and may be a little bright for you. brunetti xlr-evo would also be sweet, i believe it's £1300.

EDIT: if you like dark, might as well try a genz benz el-diablo too. make sure you try it, though, loads of people hate it. it is american, but it's under budget.



i didnt like the el diablo too much. really if its possible to mod an engl to get a dark tone then i would be interested. otherwise ill buy one amp for liquid gain like a 6505 and one for classic gain like an orange tiny terror and two 2x12s
#13
you could maybe try a fireball, it's a bit darker sounding... you'd need another amp for mid-gain tones though.

i'd definitely consider that brunetti, to be honest, if you can try one- there are a few dealer s in the uk. it has an edge/sweep control which allows it to be trebly at one extreme (more like an engl distortion) and darker at the other end (more like mesa). plus really nice cleans and a nice crunch too.
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#14
Try a Hughes and Kettner Trilogy, or Triamp if you can afford it - Trilogy should definately be under budget new, and you may well be able to find a second hand Triamp. Both have 3 channels... clean will do cleans (of course), then the crunch should do classic gain and the lead should do modern gain. Trilogy's are pretty easy to find as well... triamps less so, but I've seen one or two around
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I think you should check out Cornford.
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you could maybe try a fireball, it's a bit darker sounding... you'd need another amp for mid-gain tones though.


i'd definitely consider that brunetti, to be honest, if you can try one- there are a few dealer s in the uk. it has an edge/sweep control which allows it to be trebly at one extreme (more like an engl distortion) and darker at the other end (more like mesa). plus really nice cleans and a nice crunch too.

i tried the fireball..its not as good as a 6505

Brunetti...i heard it, it sounds like the right amp but they dont even sell it on bloody Thomann!. There are no UK shops that sell it i think.

The H&K Tri is great with features but theres something about the tone that bugs me..


Edit:-theres a brunetti on ebay and its 1100...mmmm (checks bank account)
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#17
Well if you like the 6505 you should get it.

it may not be midi capable, but you could set it up that way! might be a little more work but its a great amp!


^Also check musicstore. I believe they stocked them a year or two back so they should still have them!
#18
there definitely are UK brunetti dealers... i tried one in a shop about 15 miles from my house (not much use to you, though), and there was a dealer who used to advertise in the guitar magazines (can't remember the name though)... so if you got lucky, you might find a dealer who's reasonably handy to you...

to be honest, yeah, i'd probably prefer a 5150/6505 to a fireball, the fireball is probably my least favourite engl (that i've tried).

aye, i saw that dealer on ebay... £1100 is pretty good, i think i got quoted £1300 in my local shop. Though that's a small shop, and i didn't try to bargain or anything (i was just trying it to see what it was like)...

EDIT: ok, i checked a couple of the german sites, music schmidt, beyers, musicstore... it's cheaper on that UK ebay site, basically.
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there definitely are UK brunetti dealers... i tried one in a shop about 15 miles from my house (not much use to you, though), and there was a dealer who used to advertise in the guitar magazines (can't remember the name though)... so if you got lucky, you might find a dealer who's reasonably handy to you...

to be honest, yeah, i'd probably prefer a 5150/6505 to a fireball, the fireball is probably my least favourite engl (that i've tried).

aye, i saw that dealer on ebay... £1100 is pretty good, i think i got quoted £1300 in my local shop. Though that's a small shop, and i didn't try to bargain or anything (i was just trying it to see what it was like)...


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#20
yeah, i might if you find a close-ish dealer, it's certainly good enough to try. i wouldn't buy anything without trying, unless you get a good enough deal where you can move it on for the same price...
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yeah, i might if you find a close-ish dealer, it's certainly good enough to try. i wouldn't buy anything without trying, unless you get a good enough deal where you can move it on for the same price...


i cant see any in central scotland where i am. ill keep hunting.
#23
ah crap, yeah central scotland might be awkward. guitar guitar in edinburgh or glasgow has a very nice selection of stuff, but i don't think they're brunetti dealers...
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#24
Isn't the ENGL Blackmore supposed to be fairly dark?
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#26
not really. it's not as bright as a screamer, has more of a hot-rodded marshal, slightly more vintage, spongy and open type tone, but i'd still say it's bright rather than dark. it's not dark like a 5150 or recto can get dark. also it has 4 channels, but it's shared eq.
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