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so i play metal/hardcore and i need a half stack because my band is going to start playing shows in like november (maybe even sooner) so i have been looking at randall amps. my budget is 400-650

i have narrowed it down to this randall half stack that would be the lower end model

then my other choice would be there G3 head this would be the next step up... but to add to that is there a cheap cabinet i can get for this head and it not lose a ton of quality
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so i play metal/hardcore and i need a half stack because my band is going to start playing shows in like november (maybe even sooner) so i have been looking at randall amps. my budget is 400-650

i have narrowed it down to this randall half stack that would be the lower end model

then my other choice would be there G3 head this would be the next step up... but to add to that is there a cheap cabinet i can get for this head and it not lose a ton of quality


400-650 what?.Peruvian Pesos, Uzbekistanian farmyard animals what?
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400-650 what?.Peruvian Pesos, Uzbekistanian farmyard animals what?

american dollars, or the farm animals too... i got to many damn goats
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RX120DHS-120W-Half-Stack-Guitar-Amp-with-4x12-Cabinet?sku=481269

its similar to the other one you mentioned, but i actualy tried it, get it

thats the same one as the other half stack except its just got effects on it for an extra hundred bucks i'd rather just have the regular one... but you liked it right?
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I don't know about the heads, but i really like the sound of my Vintage 30 Randall cab!
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Why do you think you need a halfstack? Buy a good tube combo and thank me later.
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Why do you think you need a halfstack? Buy a good tube combo and thank me later.

i know they get the same loudness but id just rather have a half stack
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i know they get the same loudness but id just rather have a half stack


You're going to get a poorer sounding amp for the price then, but whatever, it's your money.
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i know they get the same loudness but id just rather have a half stack

haha i understand what you mean, i really wanted the Marshall AVT just because it was a cool stack, but then i decided to wait just a bit. The marshall would have cost me 800, but with a bit of looking around, and a bit of saving up, i got a pretty good rig for 1500. Right now it may seem to you that 'Hey, im gonna have a stack, sweet.' But once you get it, you'll want to save up for a new one because you might not be impressed by what you receive.
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You're going to get a poorer sounding amp for the price then, but whatever, it's your money.

then what tube combo do you recommend?

i need something with distortion like as i lay dying, darkest hour, killswitch engage, unearth...

you know deep lows and screaming highs
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then what tube combo do you recommend?

i need something with distortion like as i lay dying, darkest hour, killswitch engage, unearth...

you know deep lows and screaming highs


Peavey 5150, the Randall and B-52 already recommended or a Mesa F-30/F-50.
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Peavey 5150, the Randall and B-52 already recommended or a Mesa F-30/F-50.

how much is the peavey in a 100w tube combo?
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If you can find a good price for a used one, i would highly suggest the Genz Benz El Diablo combo. It just sounds so rich. You have that eddie van halen sound, and even a 'Nu-metal drop tuning high gain' tone. Really good for metal player.
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If you can find a good price for a used one, i would highly suggest the Genz Benz El Diablo combo. It just sounds so rich. You have that eddie van halen sound, and even a 'Nu-metal drop tuning high gain' tone. Really good for metal player.

it also looks like you gotta be rich to afford one
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it also looks like you gotta be rich to afford one

i know its a bit pricey, but well worth it
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how much is the peavey in a 100w tube combo?


It doesn't come in a 100w combo, only 60 and you DON'T NEED a 100 watt tube combo, I'd highly doubt you even need more than the Mesa F-30's 30 watts...
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It doesn't come in a 100w combo, only 60 and you DON'T NEED a 100 watt tube combo, I'd highly doubt you even need more than the Mesa F-30's 30 watts...

then why does everyone insist on half stacks there must be a reason... there has to be a reason why ppl always have half stacks over tube combos

the tube combos just seem wimpy compared to the half stack...
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then why does everyone insist on half stacks there must be a reason... there has to be a reason why ppl always have half stacks over tube combos

the tube combos just seem wimpy compared to the half stack...

because when people have half stacks, it's because they are the quality ones. The ones that are tube-based and cost alot more than solid states.
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because when people have half stacks, it's because they are the quality ones. The ones that are tube-based and cost alot more than solid states.


Either that or they just think they look all cool up there with their MG halfstack.
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Peavey 5150, the Randall and B-52 already recommended or a Mesa F-30/F-50.

i can only find the b-52, and the randall... ive been searching for the 5150 and i only see the 6505 and i still havent found the mesas you were talking about either
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i can only find the b-52, and the randall... ive been searching for the 5150 and i only see the 6505 and i still havent found the mesas you were talking about either


The 5150 is the same as the 6505, but it's no longer in production, you'll have to buy it and the Mesas used as they've been discontinued. Those two are really your best bet though.
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The 5150 is the same as the 6505, but it's no longer in production, you'll have to buy it and the Mesas used as they've been discontinued. Those two are really your best bet though.

aww man i was really starting to like that peavey too... are the xxx's good?
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aww man i was really starting to like that peavey too... are the xxx's good?


Why can't you buy used?

I've never played a XXX, but the people I've heard of playing it it's basically a love/hate relationship, some like it, others don't, you'd have to try it first.
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Why can't you buy used?

I've never played a XXX, but the people I've heard of playing it it's basically a love/hate relationship, some like it, others don't, you'd have to try it first.

i can but then you have to go through all the ebay/craigslist
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400-650 what?.Peruvian Pesos, Uzbekistanian farmyard animals what?


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i can but then you have to go through all the ebay/craigslist


True, but then you end up with a better amp that will last you longer in the long run.
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aww man i was really starting to like that peavey too... are the xxx's good?


There might be stores that still have 5150s...and also y cant u just get the 6505 (basically same as 5150 and some ppl even say they have a bit better cleans) if you have to get it new?
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There might be stores that still have 5150s...and also y cant u just get the 6505 (basically same as 5150 and some ppl even say they have a bit better cleans) if you have to get it new?


Because it's about twice what he wants to spend... And there's no way a 6505 has better cleans, they're the exact same thing.
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#32
well today i went to guitar center and tried some amps out...

no randalls

all mesa's were $2,000+ so i didnt bother trying them

there was the b-52 at half stack which i'm asuming is the same as the combo one which was suprisingly much better then i thought it be

then they had a 6505 stack and i played it, i loved it but its so pricey

then on top of that i was messing around with the crate flexwaves and they were basically the same as my current amp but with tubes...

i am still not very convinced on an amp to get.
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