#1
I thinking of probably buying one, but i don't know how heavy they can get.Can someone tell me please?? i play heavy grind-core/ death-core/metal-core, i do lots of palm muting , pinch Harmonics and the occasional Sweeps.
#2
perfect for you...maybe a 5150
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#3
i would think plenty heavy enough. i have a mesa triple rectifier and it causes absolute and utter destruction. as with any tube amp you have to give it some volume to give it some balls.
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+1 to ENGL, I think that's probably your best bet, 5150/6505s are good, but if you're looking at Dual Rectos, you could get a pretty nice ENGL that would be much better anyway. Maybe look into Framus too...seeing as your name is Framus
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#6
So if Duals are good, whats the difference between a dual and a triple?
Are triples just louder or do they have more distortion etc?
Do the heads sound best when run through Mesa cabs or others?
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So if Duals are good, whats the difference between a dual and a triple?
Are triples just louder or do they have more distortion etc?
Do the heads sound best when run through Mesa cabs or others?


I much prefer the Duals to the Triples, the triples don't sound as good (imo). Plus they're 150watts, who needs 150 watts?

What cab it sounds best through is all subject to your taste.
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#8
Alright. My cube models a rectifier and I liked the tone, so maybe one day I'll get one of these...
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Alright. My cube models a rectifier and I liked the tone, so maybe one day I'll get one of these...


Well...that's just a model...I wouldn't base whether you like the amp on a model of it, go play it.
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#10
single= 50 watts
Dual = 100 watts
triple= 150 Watts

If I could go back, i would probably buy a dual or even a single rectifier. My triple is almost too much......almost. They run best through the mesa cab or a higher end cab such as an Orange. On the mesa's you can also change the tubes. You can use the stock 6L6s or EL34s (You cant do this on lots of other tube amps cause you have to get them re biased but the mesa has a switch for self biasing). I feel the EL34 are give you a clearer distortion while the 6L6 give you a dirtier more broken up sound.

The 5150/6505 are super heavy. The difference between it and the mesa is that the mesa can get better cleans. You can also try the Triple X. Its pretty similar to the Mesa.
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#11
Yeah, I'd obviously try it if I had the methods of buying one
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#12
You could always buy the 5150 and a good clean amp then use a FS to switch between them if you need good cleans.

And uh... WTF is the difference between grindcore metalcore deathcore hardcore etc.. >_>
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#13
I like Goregrind myself.
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#14
^Oh, if you like the tone of the recto model on your cube, chances are you're going to like the sound of the real amp. A lot of people say don't judge an amp by a modelling unit, but in all reality, it's the second best thing to judge it by and they're usually not far off.

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#15
with 5150/6505 you can get them moded for an extra tube in the pre (i think its the pre anyway) amp to give it a tighter clean. i thought it came on the 6505 or 6505+ can someone let me know what the deal is with that?
#16
Isn't the rectifier just for converting power? I didn't think it would have anything to do with tone...
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#17
I love my Dual Rec. It's not as "loose" as a lot of folks on here claim. The Mark IV is supposed to be "OMG!!!" for most cats on here, whatever. Try it out, man. I think it's great for what you're going for
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#18
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You could always buy the 5150 and a good clean amp then use a FS to switch between them if you need good cleans.

And uh... WTF is the difference between grindcore metalcore deathcore hardcore etc.. >_>

grindcore=napalm death, metalcore=zao, as i lay dying, deathcore=from a second story window, hardcore= minor threat, h2o, bad brains
#19
dual recs are as loose as a coke heads bowels
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#21
Loose meaning?
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#23
No, I just think hardcore = hardcore, not hardcore + grindcore deathcore metalcore growlcore etc. :\ Too many cores. Classic rock was divided into 60s 70s and 80s classic rock, and metal. Not classic rock death rock rock core shred core rock shred metal rock etc etc. One genre for the growling is sufficient.

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#24
Nah it gets way different when you get into Metal, lots of different sounds.
Grind is grind for a reason, as is most others.
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#25
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Isn't the rectifier just for converting power? I didn't think it would have anything to do with tone...

it does affect the tone actually. A tube rectifier starts choking the amp when it's trying to draw the most power, so gives it a more spongy feel with less headroom. A silicon diode rectifier doesn't suffer from the same voltage drop, so it's a little tighter and punchier sounding with more headroom. The rectos all offer both kinds of rectifier, except the single, which only has silicon diode.
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#26
given the description, probably as heavy as you'll need.

5150/6505's are pretty heavy too, bascailly in the same gainy territory just different voicings.
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#27
rectos are great amps, just remember dont try and set them up like a marshall completely different, but for your style it would suit your need, i find them a tad heavier than 6505s, especially with 6L6s, and it takes alot to get them to feedback as well which is a nice feature
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No, I just think hardcore = hardcore, not hardcore + grindcore deathcore metalcore growlcore etc. :\ Too many cores. Classic rock was divided into 60s 70s and 80s classic rock, and metal. Not classic rock death rock rock core shred core rock shred metal rock etc etc. One genre for the growling is sufficient.

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ahhh, ok. im sorry i missunderstood. i know what you mean with all the "cores" gets gotten waaaaaaaaaaaay outta hand.
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No, I just think hardcore = hardcore, not hardcore + grindcore deathcore metalcore growlcore etc. :\ Too many cores. Classic rock was divided into 60s 70s and 80s classic rock, and metal. Not classic rock death rock rock core shred core rock shred metal rock etc etc. One genre for the growling is sufficient.

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Considering hardcore is a type of punk, what does metal have to do with anything?

To the OP, Mesa Dual Rectifiers are very common amps for hardcore, punk and metal, including the most extreme offshoots of these genres. It will certainly be just fine for what you're doing.
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