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what are the best ways at trying to improv death metal on bass?
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Pounding the lowest root notes you can with fast, diminished fills is a simple yet effective way. Don't walk before you can run.

Just get used to the speed and dynamics of death metal. It is important to get used to accenting the right beats to help give the song a strong rhythm. Get used to the chord changes and the scales used in the (diminished 7th arppegios and phrygian, locrian and the natural, harmonic and melodic minor scales are good places to start.
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I honestly think you're just better off playing another guitar instead of bass in 95% of Death Metal. There's just no appreciation of it.
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I honestly think you're just better off playing another guitar instead of bass in 95% of Death Metal. There's just no appreciation of it.


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Actually, a lot of Death Metal bands have very complex, intricate bass parts, sometimes forming counter melodies to the guitars. I reffer you to Technical Death Metal.

And very few death metal bands have unskilled bassists. Most are actually pretty damn good. Its just that for some styles of death metal or when the guitars need so much distortion, too complex bass parts can just muddy the sound.
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Well, I'll say this. The bassist might be playign the most complicated arpegio scale climbing riffs ever but you wouldn't know it. The treble and distortion is usually so high that you can't hear the bass or the mixing cut the bass out too much. I'm by no means saying Detah metal bassists suck.
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I can generally pick the bass out quite well, even if it is beneath the guitars and drums. Gives the genre the brute force an power it often needs.
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then replace them with a 2 on the E, again and again until the song ends

i thought about that lol
im trying out for a death metal band and i need to be able to improv for 30 minutes straight
i was gonna do that but they saided it needed to be much more complex
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just do root notes & add a couple of fills around the scale (if you know what key your in)
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I always really digged the bass player in Suffocation.
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Bass is cut out in mixing so much in metal, or its left it but timed with the kick drum.
Which is pretty much gg for the bassist.

But, as far as death metal is concerned, you may as well just learn any metal.
Like try some of dream theater or symphony x.

Holy ****, A fool's paradise by symphony x is a great one.

But hey, it depends on wether you finger pick, or use a plectrum.
if you use a plectrum (pick), you may as well be a guitarist with the bass boosted insanly.
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then replace them with a 2 on the E, again and again until the song ends

cannibal corpse, atheist, necrophagist, the list goes on and on. while that si true for some bands a decent amount have good bass players who write interesting and fun basslines. anyway, its not like all guitar lines are so varied and brilliant.

to start id suggest playing some of CCs simpler songs or more standard DM just to get sued to the genre , then once you've got more into it try Hammer smashed Face. DO NOT try atheist first, (unless your really experienced, i guess). last night i tried to play Unholy War, i can honestly say that was the first song i have completly and utterly failed to play AT ALL.
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right, as a big player of death metal (Well, progressive death metal, but that's a different matter), here's my advice:

PRACTICE YOUR BALLS OFF.

The thing with death metal is, the bass is very much locked in with the drums. Which is no mean feat. However, you don't have to stick to root notes, although expect doing it a lot. Either that, or follow the melody, which is what I do a lot anyways. Chromatics are your friend in death metal. Also, you want to cut through the mix just enough so your fills can be heard. And they need to be heard, you'll be doing a lot of them. I tend to use some of the ideas used on the guitars, but embellish or strip them down as I see fit, all whilst keeping locked with those drums as well as I can.

I also find fingerstyle much more useful in death metal, the treble-ly feel you get with plectrums don't do it for me.

Your right hand is gonna need beefing up. Grab some Cannibal Corpse and work those chops.

Musical memory- death metal doesn't tend to follow the ABABCB structure. You're going to need a good memory for riffs and the like. Which is why I improvise a lot, lol.

So, there you go, that should give you an idea. Don't listen to jerks.
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Anyway, the first thing I'd suggest is right hand technique to the TS. Work on stamina, and keeping time/dynamics as steady as possible. A compressor might be a useful investment if you're having trouble keeping a steady volume while playing fast.
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Using more than 2 fingers could be pretty helpful. But yeah, diminished scales, minor modes, harmonic minor, some tapping.