#1
I have a project for school and at one point in it I try to tell how bands like Slipknot, Trivum, Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, As I Lay Dying, and so on....

are NOT metal


So please let this be a peaceful message so I ca use it for my project.


Anyone who agrees to this statement please reply with "I agree"
And feel free to add your thoughts.


If you do not agree please just leave so you will not cause any arguments
#2
this should be a poll.

but for the most part i agree.
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#3
I agree that Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold are NOT metal...... the others are metal, just bad metal.......... or last time i heard As I Lay Dying they were something metalesque..... haven't listened to them since i heard "frail words collapse" (is that the title?)

The hip hop elements in slipknot's sound disqualify them from "metal" status. Couple that with the fact that there are no classically tinged melodies.

As for Avenged Sevenfold..... well Avenged Sevenfold = Guns N Roses..... 'nuff said.
#4
just tell them

thats not metal

this is
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#5
well i do agree, but i dont at the same time.... sure they arent "metal" i guess, but i mean they are at the same time.... all those tags are so pointless, but i mean yeah atreyu is metalcore i guess but there still metal....
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#6
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As for Avenged Sevenfold..... well Avenged Sevenfold = Guns N Roses..... 'nuff said.


Avenged Sevenfold is NOT the same as Guns N Roses. Guns N Roses is hard rock, avenged sevenfold is.....hardcorish or something.
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#7
I agree. True metal bands are bands like Iron Maiden, Megadeath, etc.
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#8
i pretty much agree with you to an extent...

but if your wanting opinions, but you don't want opinions that are against your opinions, i don't see why you posted this thread, because if things go how you want all you are gonna get is "I Agree"

EDIT:and i agree with the other guys, these sub sub sub tags are absurd. "my favorite genre is post-metal grindcore"???? Can't we keep these genres simple?
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#10
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Avenged Sevenfold is NOT the same as Guns N Roses. Guns N Roses is hard rock, avenged sevenfold is.....hardcorish or something.


there newer stuff isnt really "hardcore". ive heard a lot of people refer to them as the guns and roses of our time..... i kinda see where theyre coming from. i honestly think avenged sevenfold is better (except slash is still god, i just think axl is kinda cheesy)
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#11
last time i checked, trivium was metal, slipknot sorta is too, as for the otehr bands...CRaPPYNESS!!! avenged sevenfold has some decent songs tho
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#12
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Avenged Sevenfold is NOT the same as Guns N Roses. Guns N Roses is hard rock, avenged sevenfold is.....hardcorish or something.


Umm, their older material was metalcore, yes...... but the stuff they've released lately is pretty much GnR at a faster tempo.
#13
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Avenged Sevenfold is NOT the same as Guns N Roses. Guns N Roses is hard rock, avenged sevenfold is.....hardcorish or something.


NOT HARDCORE.
hardcore is minor threat, black flag, Dead kennedys (sorta), Bad brains, etc.

now...
they COULD be considered like a hard rock band. maybe just rock or something.

well hell...progressive. lets go with that.
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i pretty much agree with you to an extent...

but if your wanting opinions, but you don't want opinions that are against your opinions, i don't see why you posted this thread, because if things go how you want all you are gonna get is "I Agree"

...or in other words:

I'm not going to choose sides here because I don't really know much about metal. I just walked in here because I thought the thread sounded interesting. But getting 5 page of "I Agree" kind of seems useless to me.
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NOT HARDCORE.
hardcore is minor threat, black flag, Dead kennedys (sorta), Bad brains, etc.

now...
they COULD be considered like a hard rock band. maybe just rock or something.

well hell...progressive. lets go with that.


eh... My idea of progressive is Rush/Coheed and Cambria/Pink Floyd. Maybe a progressive metal.
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#16
the dudes plans backfired. its funny
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#17
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eh... My idea of progressive is Rush/Coheed and Cambria/Pink Floyd. Maybe a progressive metal.


and yeah sure...progressive metal works.
i mean...
they have the metal qualities. as much as i dont like them you know,
but i must say they have talented guitarists.
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#19
well how do you realy defy metal?? it's like theres meny metal genres. like heavy metal. its not metal but still metal. so Slipknot is a kind of metal...you get my point??
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#20
Good thread. You really show off your TRUE METAL POWERS.
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#21
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there newer stuff isnt really "hardcore". ive heard a lot of people refer to them as the guns and roses of our time..... i kinda see where theyre coming from. i honestly think avenged sevenfold is better (except slash is still god, i just think axl is kinda cheesy)


Axl is cheesy? Avenged has guys named Zacky Vengeance, Synyster Gates and The Rev. That's high quality cheese!
#22
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well how do you realy defy metal?? it's like theres meny metal genres. like heavy metal. its not metal but still metal. so Slipknot is a kind of metal...you get my point??

thats exactly what i mean
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#23
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Axl is cheesy? Avenged has guys named Zacky Vengence, Syn Gates and The Rev. That's high quality cheese!

yea, but axl is a douchebag so were even now... nothing is chessier than a balding, middle aged white man with cornrows though.... you gotta give me that at least
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#24
the dudes plans backfired. its funny



haha yea sure did


you might was well lock this thread and I will move on to metal archives


haha
#25

if thats not cheesy than what is
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#26
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if thats not cheesy than what is


man does that luck familiar...



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