#1
I have the DS-1 self-modded to Keeley Ultra/SEM, but I can't seem to get a decent distortion out of my new Blues Junior.
No matter how I set the amp and the pedal, the distortion lacks tone and gain, which is pretty odd since on max distortion the Ultra is a freakin' gain monster.
Anyone in a similar condition with recommendations?
#3
1-is the volume all the way up on your guitar?
2-Crank the master volume but back down on preamp volume
3-Dig into those strings
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#4
I tried high master/low pre and high pre/low master
It still lacks gain.
Hmm. Maybe the battery is fading away...
I really need to get a goddamn power supply.
#5
I had one. Low master/high volume you should definitely be getting some nice tube distortion, paired with a decent pedal it should sound great unless you're expecting metal or something.
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#6
The OD I get from low master/high volume is lame as hell. It sounds truly bad
Hell, I wouldn't even call it an OD.
The only metal I listen to/play is Dream Theater, and I can get pretty decent sounds of out my old SS 20W amp, so why not from this amp?
#8
Then either something is wrong with your amp, or something is wrong with your ears.
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#10
i do what you do and i call mine OD. it's the creamiest thing ever.
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#11
Distortion isn't the same as over-drive.

If you want distortion you are using the wrong pedal, using an OD pedal, obviously mate.
#12
Jackolas, the DS-1 is a distortion pedal, but we kinda strayed away from the topic, so...

About the natural OD, when I crank up the volume and lower the master + turn on the Fat mode, I basically get the same thing as if I were low vol/high master, but with a tiny amount of clipping.
I get what I would get if I were to turn on the DS-1 on 0 distortion.
Its pretty lousy...
Maybe I aint cranking the master high enough... The volume is on max and the master is on 3-4...
#13
I would suspect that the amp gets a lot of its natural distortion from the power tubes. Some amps get more at the preamp. You may have to play it at a fairly high volume to get the sounds you want, or if your ear is hungry for preamp distortion you will either have to be satisfied with a pedal or get a different amp. These two types of distortion sound very different to my ears.
#14
^blues jr gets as much/maybe more from the preamp. it is different, but i got a weber mini mass and i've cranked this thing. poweramp distortion is awesome, but it sounds better when u get both. i'm greedy.
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#15
I just played the Blues Junior in the store today got quite a bit of overdrive...then again I guess it's how you define that term.

TS what sort of distortion/drive are you looking for?
The BJ should be able to do AC/DC and the likes on it's own, but if your looking for lead metallica style solo distortion then you might want a good pedal.


Also up till now i've been using high volume/ low master, looks like I should try it the opposite way next time.
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#16
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^blues jr gets as much/maybe more from the preamp. it is different, but i got a weber mini mass and i've cranked this thing. poweramp distortion is awesome, but it sounds better when u get both. i'm greedy.

I believe you about the greedy part. So am I. Well I never had the chance to crank one. I see I need to get down to my bud's store and get current. I haven't messed much with Fender amps in a long time.
#17
^awesome. u should. it's quite different from a valveking's poweramp saturation.
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#18
Quote by zeppelinpage4
I just played the Blues Junior in the store today got quite a bit of overdrive...then again I guess it's how you define that term.

TS what sort of distortion/drive are you looking for?
The BJ should be able to do AC/DC and the likes on it's own, but if your looking for lead metallica style solo distortion then you might want a good pedal.


Also up till now i've been using high volume/ low master, looks like I should try it the opposite way next time.

If I could get AC/DC out of that amp, then I'd also get a wicked distortion by boosting with the DS-1.
But I cant :|
I'll try cranking it up a little today.
#19
Well, I gave it a shot, max volume, master on 4-5, Fat switch on. I'm kinda scared to crank it up higher, its pretty goddamn loud.
Basically all I get is an EXTREMELY mild OD and a ****load of background hissing..
Its terrible. :|
And when I hook up and turn on the DS-1 its even worse. A good way to describe it would be as if there were two channels playing, a clean channel in 90 percent volume, and a distorted channel playing at 10 percent volume.
Pretty bad... Meh I think Im gonna go over and play another Blues Junior in the shop with the same settings and see how it sounds...
Maybe mines flawed.
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#20
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Hell Ill record it tomorrow.
I seriously wouldn't call what Im getting an OD.


Are you still going to post soundclips?
#22
Well, I got a recording that reflects how ****ty my mic is, but not how my OD is hehe...
#23
Well, why did you get a Blues Junior if you needed so much more gain from an amp?

When I got it, I thought the OD was too much drive for me, at max. It can get up to Led Zeppelin type OD at full pre-amp in my opinion, and a humbucker guitar. There are better 15 watt tube amps if you needed the gain, such as a Crate V16. The BJ is made for blues, that nice spot right after clean where the notes start to break up. It can get heavier, but I think it excels in that, and slight overdrive. Not gain really...maybe get an OCD or another overdrive pedal.
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#24
Look, I have a DS-1 Ultra, I shouldnt have any problem getting good gain from it, right?
Just like I have no problem getting high-gain from a solid state 20W.