#1
hey im thinking of purchasing the Rg1570

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/15888

and then i saw the bc mockingbird slash

http://www.thomann.de/gb/bc_rich_mockingbird_st.htm

what ones would be better for a metalhead (sanctity, cannibal corpse, slayer, anthraz, pantera, gojira etc)

thanks guys
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#2
RG1570s are awesome, brilliant quality, I've played a couple and they felt amazing. I can't testify for the BcRich but I don't imagine it's as good as the 1570.
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#3
I've owned the 1570, very nice guitar, excellent playability and quality for the price. That BC doesn't look bad at all though with those specs. OFR, mahogany, neck thru, ebony board, and better pups IMO than the stock Ibanez ones. Personally, I would probably prefer the mahogany for the heavier stuff too. Can't go wrong with the Ibanez, but that BC looks very interesting.
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They should both do the job pretty well. Best thing to do is go to a music store and try them both. See which one you like better.
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#5
Both pretty nice guitars, Ibanezs have a very very nice sound, a very warm sound even in the lower down models, so this should be a gem. It would be very good for metal but the BC Rich would also be good for metal but not much else. Personally i would go for the Ibanez
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#6
BC all the way

neck thru ftw
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#7
I'd get the BC Rich because I already have a 570, but the 1570 is a better guitar.
#8
the thing is i cant find the bc in any guitar shop near me =/ and the ibanez is pretty hard to find, im just thinking the ibanez is more versatile
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the RG most definitely, my friend has one and it sounds great
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#10
I'm pretty sure the BC Rich is made of nato, not mahogany.


Just play both.

You'd have to swap the pickups in the RG if you wanted a nice mean, metal tone.
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#11
i cant play them shamefully

i was thniking of buying emgs 81 and 85 for either of them
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i cant play them shamefully

i was thniking of buying emgs 81 and 85 for either of them


Those pickups won't mix very well with basswood.
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#14
^Not necessarily. Some people like the sound of EMGs in basswood and some don't. I think erock(something) has an Ibanez with EMG's in it and he sounds pretty good.
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Those pickups won't mix very well with basswood.

Not necessarily.

Erockshock (?) has them in his RG1570 and they sound great.
Although, there is a bit of modding to get them to fit in.

Out of those two guitars I'd go with the RG, thinner neck (if you like it that way), amazing trem, better construction (hand built), just a better feel in general.
But if you can, try them out. A lot of people don't like the Ibanez' neck.
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wtf, Ibanez's necks have got to be the most favored necks on UG.

I've seen a lot of disdainful comments on them, because some people find them too thin, too small.
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^Not necessarily. Some people like the sound of EMGs in basswood and some don't. I think erock(something) has an Ibanez with EMG's in it and he sounds pretty good.


My bad. Yeah, I should stop presenting general opinions as facts.
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#21
Get the RG...
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Those pickups won't mix very well with basswood.

Funny, everyone on these forums says EMGs sound the same in anything.


Get the RG
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I'm pretty sure the BC Rich is made of nato, not mahogany.


Just play both.

You'd have to swap the pickups in the RG if you wanted a nice mean, metal tone.

nato is eastern mahogany

and for christ's sake, get the mockingbird. it is much more versatile than the rg and has better features: better trem, better pickups, neck-through, coil-taps, varitone knob. what else could you want in a guitar. bc rich all the way
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^Not necessarily. Some people like the sound of EMGs in basswood and some don't. I think erock(something) has an Ibanez with EMG's in it and he sounds pretty good.


I ONLY like EMG's in Basswood.

I generally dislike them, but i'm considering getting an 81 for my 570.
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nato is eastern mahogany

and for christ's sake, get the mockingbird. it is much more versatile than the rg and has better features: better trem, better pickups, neck-through, coil-taps, varitone knob. what else could you want in a guitar. bc rich all the way



Better trem? Yeah ****ing right.

...nato/nyatoh isn't actually mahogany.
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Better trem? Yeah ****ing right.

...nato/nyatoh isn't actually mahogany.

i would take an OFR over an edge pro any day
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nato is eastern mahogany



From some website about tonewoods, take it for what it's worth:

Nato is a South American hard wood, similar to mahogany and was used as a cheap mahogany substitute for entry level instruments until agathis gained in popularity. Not really a great tonewood and is really only a step up from cheap ply or composite wood.
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i would take an OFR over an edge pro any day

that's a valid opinion but loads people would disagree with you.

I'd have to be one of them, the edge pro is widely held as one of the best trems available.
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nato is eastern mahogany

and for christ's sake, get the mockingbird. it is much more versatile than the rg and has better features: better trem, better pickups, neck-through, coil-taps, varitone knob. what else could you want in a guitar. bc rich all the way


-like someone else has pointed out already, nato isn't eastern mahogany.

-why would it be more versatile?

-better trem? Edge Pro's are equal, if not greater in quality than OFR trems. Some will prefer one over the other, but you can't deny the quality of the Edge Pro.

-the pickups on the Ibanez aren't as bad as most people say they are. They're not very exciting, but on the other hand they're not that bad either.

-neck-through is not the definitive answer to neck joints. It's main advantage is good upper fret access, but with the AANJ on the Ibanez the upper frets are very reachable.

-the Ibanez has coil tapped positions as well.

-the Ibanez doesn't have a varitone knob, on the other hand, it does have a Prestige neck with a very comfortable profile.
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i say, go for the mockinbird, you don't see any of those around
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#34
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i say, go for the mockinbird, you don't see any of those around


Usually when you see a lot of people using the same product, it means that there's a good reason to buy it. With the RG it's the fact that you get a lot of quality stuff on a guitar with a modest price tag.

The logical responce would be to go: "well, if that many people like them, there's a good chance I'll like them too."

Yet you go the exact opposite way, by not recommending one because others have them too. Of course having a unique instrument is nice, but the mockingbird isn't that much of a rarity and by dismissing an instrument on the basis that a lot of people already have one you'll miss out on some quality stuff.
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#35
As far as I'm concerned, the RG. No question about it. The 1xxx series are great value for money guitars.
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As far as I'm concerned, the RG. No question about it. The 1xxx series are great value for money guitars.



1570 = 2570, but with a blarkle blue finish, no binding and V7 V8 pups
tbh, your gonna change the pups anyway and the sparkle finish's are gorgeous.

1550 = 2550, but avainable in limited colours, maple board and more like the tradictional rg550.
again V7 and V8 which will most likley be changed.
#37
You can't go wrong with a Prestige Ibanez. They're well built guitars. That being said, if you don't like Wizard necks, don't get it.

A high end BC Rich is an amazing guitar, I would highly recommend it, but, I coudln't guarantee the quality being quite as high as the Ibanez Prestige.
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