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Hopefully this will decrease the overflow of “What ska bands should I listen to?” Thanks to neidnarb11890, element4433, and StreetLight3989 putting this all together.


Overview:
Ska started in the 50’s combining Caribbean mento and calypso with American jazz and rhythm and blues. It is characterized by a walking bass line, accented guitar, or piano rhythms on the offbeat, and in some cases, jazz-like horn riffs. In the early 1960s, ska was the dominant musical genre of Jamaica, and it was also popular with British mods. Music historians typically divide the history of ska into three periods: the original Jamaican ska scene of the 1960s, the 2 Tone ska revival that started in England in the late 1970s, and the third wave ska movement, which started in the 1980s.

Sargasm's Edit: There was a thread asking about the word "Ska" itself, so I figured I'd add a little bit of information about it. The word "Ska" is pronounced to rhyme with "spa." There are two prominent theories on the etymology of the word itself. (Nobody knows for sure which is true.) Some say it comes from the phrase "Love Skavoovie," which was a greeting used in Jamaica at the time, notably by Cluet Johnson who was an early Ska bassist. Another theory is that "ska, ska, ska, ska" was an onomatopoetic way people would describe the syncopated rhythm of the music.

First wave/Creation
The people of Jamaica began buying radio’s and listening to American jazz, blues, and R&B in the 40’s. They began creating their own forms of these genre’s, playing chopped guitar beat, walking bass line, jazz horns, piano, and drums in 4/4 time. Ska was immediately popular in Jamaica. It was after all Jamiaca's first indiginous original music sound.


Bands:
Laurel Aitken
Prince Buster
Desmond Dekker
Clement "Coxsone" Dodd
Don Drummond
The Ethiopians
Justin Hinds
Judge Dread
Byron Lee & the Dragonaires
The Melodians
Jackie Opel
Millie Small
Derrick Morgan
Eric "Monty" Morris
The Paragons
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The Pioneers
Duke Reid
Ernest Ranglin
Rico Rodriguez
The Skatalites
Symarip
Toots and the Maytals
The Wailers


Second Waves/Two Tone:
In the late 70’s musicans in Britain began mixing Jamaican ska with the the speed and aggression of punk. The lyrics were about racial harmony when racail tensions were high in England. 2 tone didn’t last long though. Ska shows attrached two groups of people; The Skinheads and Rude Boys. Skinheads were/are working class people, while Rude Boys were rich and wore fancy clothes. There were constant fights between these to groups and clubs stopped booking ska bands.

Bands:
Bad Manners
The Beat (also known as The English Beat)
The Bodysnatchers
Madness
The Selecter
The Specials (known at some points as The Special AKA)
Special Beat


3rd Wave:
In the 80’s bands influenced by influenced by 2 tone began to form. Third wave ska music often features brass instruments and a heavily-accented offbeat; a characteristic that was also prevalent in the second wave of ska. Southern California was the central hotspot for third wave ska, although the genre has spread around the globe. Bands began combing the tradition ska sound with pop punk. Several third wave ska bands have played in a traditional 1960s style though. Third wave ska reached the peak of its commercial success between 1995 and 1998.

Bands:
The Allstonians
The Aquabats
Area-7
Athena
Big D and the Kids Table
Blue Meanies
The Bruce Lee Band
Buck-O-Nine
The Busters
Capdown
Catch 22
The Chinkees
Critical Mass
Dance Hall Crashers
Five Iron Frenzy
Goldfinger
Hepcat
The Insyderz
Johnny Socko
King Django
King Prawn
Leningrad
Less Than Jake
Let's Go Bowling
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Mustard Plug
No Doubt
The O.C. Supertones
The Pietasters
The Planet Smashers
Reel Big Fish
Ruder Than You
Save Ferris
The Scofflaws
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Slightly Stoopid
The Slackers
spunge
Streetlight Manifesto
Suburban Rhythm
The Toasters
The Uptones


Third Wave Sub Genre - Ska Punk/Ska-Core:
Ska punk combines punk and ska, ska-core combines ska with hardcore. Ska punk is characterised by faster tempos, guitar distortion, onbeat punk-style interludes (usually the chorus), and nasal, gruff, or shouted vocals. The more ska-influenced style of ska punk features a more developed instrumentation and a cleaner vocal and musical sound. The common instrumentation includes guitar, bass guitar, drums, saxophones, trombones, trumpets and/or other brass instruments, and sometimes an organ.

Bands:
Operation Ivy
Choking Victim
Link 80
Against All Authority
Hub City Stompers
Citizen Fish
Common Rider
Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls
Fishbone


Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska
http://www.potentbrew.com/skaregdu.html
http://www.bluejuice.org.au/subpage12.html
http://web.fccj.edu/~ivanhoof/ska/
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~dab/ska.html
http://www.reggaemovement.com/History/historyska.htm
http://www.superskank.co.uk/ska_history.html
http://www.skasummit.com/
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nice, any chance you guys can replace my history teacher haha i didnt know some of this stuff, pretty interesting ^_^
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Nice, I'd like to see a nice list of ska bands separated from the punk list like I asked for a year and a half ago =P
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Well unless you want to sort through hundreds of bands and make a seperate ska list, then go ahead. The purpose of this thread is to give a brief introduction as to what ska is for n00bs.
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OK here's the rest

Justin Hinds
Judge Dread
Byron Lee & the Dragonaires
The Melodians
Jackie Opel
Millie Small
Derrick Morgan
Eric "Monty" Morris
The Paragons
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The Pioneers
Duke Reid
Ernest Ranglin
Rico Rodriguez
The Skatalites
Symarip
Toots and the Maytals
The Wailers

Second Waves/Two Tone
In the late 70’s musicans in Britain began mixing Jamaican ska with the the speed and aggression of punk. The lyrics were about racial harmony when racail tensions were high in England. 2 tone didn’t last long though. Ska shows attrached two groups of people; The Skinheads and Rude Boys. Skinheads were/are working class people, while Rude Boys were rich and wore fancy clothes. There were constant fights between these to groups and clubs stopped booking ska bands.

Bad Manners
The Beat (also known as The English Beat)
The Bodysnatchers
Madness
The Selecter
The Specials (known at some points as The Special AKA)
Special Beat

Ska punk/ Ska-core
Ska punk combines punk and ska, ska-core combines ska with hardcore. Ska punk is characterised by faster tempos, guitar distortion, onbeat punk-style interludes (usually the chorus), and nasal, gruff, or shouted vocals. The more ska-influenced style of ska punk features a more developed instrumentation and a cleaner vocal and musical sound. The common instrumentation includes guitar, bass guitar, drums, saxophones, trombones, trumpets and/or other brass instruments, and sometimes an organ.
Operation Ivy
Choking Victim
Link 80
Against All Authority
Hub City Stompers
Citizen Fish
Common Rider
Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls
Fishbone


3rd Wave
In the 80’s bands influenced by influenced by 2 tone began to form. Third wave ska music often features brass instruments and a heavily-accented offbeat; a characteristic that was also prevalent in the second wave of ska. Southern California was the central hotspot for third wave ska, although the genre has spread around the globe. Bands began combing the tradition ska sound with pop punk. Several third wave ska bands have played in a traditional 1960s style though. Third wave ska reached the peak of its commercial success between 1995 and 1998.
The Allstonians
The Aquabats
Area-7
Athena
Big D and the Kids Table
Blue Meanies
The Bruce Lee Band
Buck-O-Nine
The Busters
Capdown
Catch 22
The Chinkees
Critical Mass
Dance Hall Crashers
Five Iron Frenzy
Goldfinger
Hepcat
The Insyderz
Johnny Socko
King Django
King Prawn
Leningrad
Less Than Jake
Let's Go Bowling
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Mustard Plug
No Doubt
The O.C. Supertones
The Pietasters
The Planet Smashers
Reel Big Fish
Ruder Than You
Save Ferris
The Scofflaws
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Slightly Stoopid
The Slackers
spunge
Streetlight Manifesto
Suburban Rhythm
The Toasters
The Uptones
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Last edited by element4433 at Oct 7, 2007,
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Can you put the links in the first post Christina?


BTW thanks for letting us do this
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Alright, all editted together!

No, thank you for writing all that stuff up. Whenever you guys wanna throw stuff like this together, don't be scared to ask me. As long as it's going to encourage discussion or educate someone about punk/ska, I will always be cool with it.
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Quote by waterproofpie
Well unless you want to sort through hundreds of bands and make a seperate ska list, then go ahead. The purpose of this thread is to give a brief introduction as to what ska is for n00bs.


I was kidding

I see there is a nice list now. I like it.
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^Joey I was going to ask for your input last night but, you left the chat too soon.
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i like it...
im just starting to get more into ska
and i needed some stuff to check out
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Quote by FireItUp714
i like it...
im just starting to get more into ska
and i needed some stuff to check out
Good, thats what this thread is about. Most people will recommend two tone and fist wave.
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so far i dont really have any 1st or 2nd wave stuff, mostly 3rd wave and ska-core
so im deffinetly gonna start checking some of these bands out
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Cool. I recommend The Specials, The English Beat, The Slackers, and The Skatalites
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k thanks
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Looks pretty good. Those "wAt R sUm GuD sKa BaNdS" threads are annoying.
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Nice work, guys. *-) I like it, it sums everything up very nicely.


By the way, who would you d00dz say was the first third-wave band? The Dance Hall Crashers released their first record in '89, making them the oldest band I listen to that has that third-wave "silly ska" sound. As far as I know, DHC predates Mustard Plug, Reel Big Fish, Big D, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.

So who kicked off the whole thing?
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Quote by JesusOfSbrbia
Nice work, guys. *-) I like it, it sums everything up very nicely.


By the way, who would you d00dz say was the first third-wave band? The Dance Hall Crashers released their first record in '89, making them the oldest band I listen to that has that third-wave "silly ska" sound. As far as I know, DHC predates Mustard Plug, Reel Big Fish, Big D, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.

So who kicked off the whole thing?


The Toasters, they started in 81'.

They have a two tone sound but they ARE third wave ska.
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Quote by Joe-Fish
The Toasters, they started in 81'.

They have a two tone sound but they ARE third wave ska.
Joey's right its The Toasters
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

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Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
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Ahhhh, I should have known that. Cool
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If you fuck with me, I'll put my foot in your ass
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My drummer saw them at Warped and said they were really really really good live
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
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thanks for that breif info on rude boys, i really did not know that they were the upper class at all, in fact i could have sworn it started in jamaica with first wave but i guess i was wrong
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thanks for that breif info on rude boys, i really did not know that they were the upper class at all, in fact i could have sworn it started in jamaica with first wave but i guess i was wrong
I wouldn't say upper class, they just had more money. It did start in Jamaica

Here's where I got most of the rude boy/skin head information if you want to read the whole thing. I summorized this in the thread.

http://web.fccj.edu/~ivanhoof/ska/OneStepB.html


From Wikipedia


Rudeboy, rudie, rudi or rudy is a subculture that developed in the 1960s in Jamaica.

Rude boys were associated with ska and rocksteady music, and they dressed in the latest fashions at dancehalls and on the streets. The term rude boy or rude girl came from Jamaican slang for cool or hip. In the 1960s, disaffected unemployed Jamaican youths sometimes found temporary employment from sound system operators to disrupt competitors' dances (leading to the term dancehall crasher). This — and other street violence — became an integral part of rudeboy lifestyle, and often gave rise to gangs. Many of these rudies started wearing sharp suits, thin ties, and pork pie or Trilby hats; inspired by United States gangster movies, jazz musicians and soul music artists.

Following an increased level of Jamaican migration to the United Kingdom in the late 1960s, rude boy music and fashion became a strong influence on the skinhead subculture. During the 1970s 2 Tone ska revival in England, the terms rude boy and rude girl were often used to describe fans of that genre, and this revised use of the term continued with the third wave ska movement. In these two contexts, the term rude boy was long separated from the term's tough, gangster past. In the United Kingdom in the 2000s, the terms rude boy and rude girl have come to refer mainly to Afro-Caribbean youths who follow the latest trends and fashions in African American or Afro-Caribbean culture, such as those associated with the hip hop culture. The terms are often used in a derogatory sense to describe youths from poorer backgrounds who attempt to emulate such fashions.
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Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
Last edited by element4433 at Oct 7, 2007,
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alright gotcha, i was more familiar with the Jamaican Rude Boys and not the UK ones

thanks man
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No problem
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
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any other information or bands under ska-core?
and i thought 3rd wave was considered ska punk?
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People still listen to ska?
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Quote by recklessnick
any other information or bands under ska-core?
and i thought 3rd wave was considered ska punk?


That's a way too common misconception. There's plenty of bands that keep a two tone sound and are third wave. Listen to Voodoo Glow Skulls and then The Aquabats and tell me they sound alike.
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what about bands labelled 3rd wave like less than jake, streetlight manifesto, big d and the kids', arent those ska punk bands?
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On several of the sites I used, ska punk and 3rd wave were listed together. We decided to separate them because they sound too different, at least to me. None of us that wrote the article knew a lot about ska punk and it was the hardest one to write about. If anybody want to add to what we have, feel free to.
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Quote by recklessnick
what about bands labelled 3rd wave like less than jake, streetlight manifesto, big d and the kids', arent those ska punk bands?


Streetlight and Big D would be. Maybe not LTJ.
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Quote by Joe-Fish
Streetlight and Big D would be. Maybe not LTJ.


I don't think Big D's new album is ska punk.
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So what about Westbound Train? They're not on the list.

Third wave with a traditional ska sound?
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Quote by StreetLight3989
I don't think Big D's new album is ska punk.


That's because they brought a lot of two-tone influence into their music with the new album. Their earlier albums were ska punk though.
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Quote by JesusOfSbrbia
So what about Westbound Train? They're not on the list.

Third wave with a traditional ska sound?


great band but this thread is just for some introductory bands its not really a list of all the ska bands ever
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Quote by JesusOfSbrbia
So what about Westbound Train? They're not on the list.

Third wave with a traditional ska sound?
The list is copied from the ska list on wikipedia. Christina will have to add the bands you guys suggest.
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

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