Poll: Vintage Black or White
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View poll results: Vintage Black or White
Vintage Black
29 56%
White
23 44%
Voters: 52.
#1
I was looking at the ESP EC Standard II VB, and realized there's now an LTD EC-1000 with the same stuff. EMG 81/85, Grover tuners, and it looks exactly the same besides the name.

So, my question is, what are the differences behind the price tags?

I definitely plan on trying both out side by side, but what should I be looking for?

Craftmanship? Tonal qualities in the wood? Paint durability?


Second question, total opinion (refers to poll)

Vintage Black:


or White:
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#2
White.

And the differences would be the wood/craftsmanship/overall attention to detail and the setup most notably
#3
The ESP version has one more knob and only 22 frets. I was going to get the LTD version, but then I saw a Dean and had that instead .

Oh and VB definitely.
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#4
go with the black, the binding on the fretboard looks crap beyond belief
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#5
I nearly bought the Vintage Black because I didn't like the abalone inlays on the other models, but I wanted the Duncans instead and they didn't have any of the sunburst models. I got a PRS instead.


But yeah, the black looks really slick and it sounds great. Can't go wrong with ESP, in my opinion, but the EC-1000 is a really classy instrument.
#7
ESP = made in Japan

LTD = made in korea. No difference besides the tuners. LTD have grovers. I think ESP have Gotoh

Oh, and Black for the win! The white one looks a bit plain, and I'm not a fan of abalone binding. The black one looks like a Les Paul's evil twin
Last edited by sashki at Oct 7, 2007,
#9
Hmm, yeah the neck binding on the white is ugly, but the ESP version doesn't have that

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Fender Deluxe Active Jazz Bass
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Pedal Board:
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Digitech Bad Monkey
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
ISP Decimator
Dual button footswitch
#10
as sashki said, the esp is MIJ, the ltd MIK. the ltd might have 24 frets too... if you're after a more accurate LP neck pickup tone, the 22 fret version would be preferable.

But just generally, the esp will be higher quality. whether it's worth the extra is up to you... the ltd deluxes aren't slouches by any means, but yeah, odds are the esp will be nicer.

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#11
the white one looks more "godly", i mean you just dont mess around with a guy with a all white guitar.
#12
First, I prefer the White. Second, go with ESP. Even the best LTD can't touch an ESP in terms of craftmenship and playability.
#13
I'd pick the cherry red one but if you dont like that one then white.
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#15
i really like white 'les paul' style guitars. not vintage white, has to be that really crisp clean olympic/arctic white
#16
ESP craftsmanship and attention to detail is amazing when compared to ltd, every thing such as the frets and all of the minor details are perfect.
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