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#1
I'm going to Florida soon and i'm going to buy a deluxe telecaster, which in England I think are about £900, whilst in the US they're £600.
but then i'm told I'll have to pay VAT & Import Duty on this..
which means i may aswell just get it here..
soo, are there anyways to avoid this payment?
i know it's a bit illegal and all, but you all understand me i'm sure
has anyone managed to avoid this themselves? x
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#2
my friend got a charvel back by putting it in a battered old case no questions asked
however if you get caught then you'll have to pay the tax
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go buy it

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Probally what Jdwannabe said would make the most sense but i'd just buy it from the UK if it was me
#6
Get someone to carry it for you.
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Probally what Jdwannabe said would make the most sense but i'd just buy it from the UK if it was me



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Say it's yours, you brought it with you on the trip.
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Cheap hardcase. Cover with stickers. Pour water over them. Light sandpapering over the stickers, heavy around the edges. Make that **** fray.



Still need to pay for extra luggage. I thought that was what you wanted to avoid? Hense my folding idea.
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#11
and send all of the stuff that says you bought it in america to you're house and then they can't prove that u bought it there.

Just say u took it with u on holiday
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#12
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Still need to pay for extra luggage. I thought that was what you wanted to avoid? Hense my folding idea.


He wants to avoid the tax that makes guitars so expensive in Britain.
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#13
if ure over 18 stay in the US for more then 14 days and you will not have to pay the taxes but if ure under 18 you will have to pay but if ure over 18 every 7 days u spend in the US means u can purchase a guitar thats 750$ and not pay the tax to take it out of the us 14 days is 1500 dollars if u spend 1 to 6 days then u gotta pay the taxes so....
#14
Its the ridiculous 17.5% vat plus customs tax that adds up to about 22% net thats the problem. Seeing as gifts are tax free say your uncle in the states gave it to you as a gift. Either that or say you are with a band and you bought it out with you and now its just going home.
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^ That dude has the right idea, all you have to do is just disguise the guitar well enough so customs people wint ask what it is. And don't look suspicious, wear nice clothes, smile nicely etc maybe shave off a beard.

What you could do is take the hardcase out of Britain empty, saying you have a guitar, then comeback with the tele inside it. If they look at it, you say "I brought it out to America with me," they could check it out on the computers and see that you took a guitar with you.
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^ That dude has the right idea, all you have to do is just disguise the guitar well enough so customs people wint ask what it is. And don't look suspicious, wear nice clothes, smile nicely etc maybe shave off a beard.

What you could do is take the hardcase out of Britain empty, saying you have a guitar, then comeback with the tele inside it. If they look at it, you say "I brought it out to America with me," they could check it out on the computers and see that you took a guitar with you.


yeah it would be good to have something saying you had the luggage when you came into the U.S.
#17
freddaahh that wont work they dont have u in the computers my parents friends brung a sewing machine across and then when they brung it back they had to pay the taes on something they didnt purchase so my way i think is the only correct way and if u do get caught trying to hide it ure in alot of ****
#18
guys you're all legends!
i've thought of some of these ways before.. but then my mum's like
"it's the law, they're not stupid"
but surely i could just say that it was a gift from my uncle and then just walk straight through.


"if ure over 18 stay in the US for more then 14 days and you will not have to pay the taxes but if ure under 18 you will have to pay but if ure over 18 every 7 days u spend in the US means u can purchase a guitar thats 750$ and not pay the tax to take it out of the us 14 days is 1500 dollars if u spend 1 to 6 days then u gotta pay the taxes so..."

i must say this was interesting to see, i'm only 17 at the moment, but i'm going out with my parents who are obviously over and i'm going for 14 days, so does this mean i can buy a £1200 guitar and not have to pay the taxes etc on these grounds..?
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#19
pedaler .. where did you find this information? x
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#21
Stick it in a cheap, beat up old case. Put stickers etc. on the case, perhaps scrape some of the edges and stuff.

Take it on as hand luggage. That way it's not udner risk from pressure/temperature in the hold PLUS you won't have to pay oversized baggage fees.
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#22
i dont posess a crap guitar joey x
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#23
a massive hard case on the plane on a 9 hr flight, i can see the surrounding 30 people wanting to kill me due to them having to have their bags on their laps cause i want my guitar in overhead luggagee.
i think i'll do the whole "i was on tour thing" with my family :|
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#24
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a massive hard case on the plane on a 9 hr flight, i can see the surrounding 30 people wanting to kill me due to them having to have their bags on their laps cause i want my guitar in overhead luggagee.
i think i'll do the whole "i was on tour thing" with my family :|
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It's not that bad, I've taken a guitar on as hand luggage, just put it flat in the overhead storage, people can put their bags on top of it.

If you put it in the cargo hold, it's under a lot of danger from unstable pressure and freezing temperatures.
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#25
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i dont posess a crap guitar joey x

good point

you could buy a cheapo guitar off ebay or a friend?
but saying this, this gives less reason to just buy in that tax hell known as the UK
#26
I'll just clear up a few things.

!. Normally you can just walk stright through the green channel in Customs. In the unlikely case you are caught carrying over £145 of stuff purchased in the USA you'll have to pay a fine on top of the import tax on it. From my experiance it's highly unlikely that you'll be stopped. The old looking guitar case should work well.
2. Pedaller466 is wrong. You need to stay in the US for a lot more time than 14 days to be able to avoid import tax, I can't remember how long, I thinks it's like a year or so.
3. You usually won't be able to carry the guitar as hand luggage said and as always you'll only have to pay for extra luggage if your family goes over their total allowed weight limit.
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You could always try the time honoured method of the cocaine smugglers, wrap it in a condom, then either swallow it or shove it up where the sun don't shine. It could work.
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Might see you over there. Off over on the 4th of November.
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#29
i come back that day man!
you may see me sprinting through customs with my beloved deluxe tele
or you may see me with a bleeding nose from where i've been stopped with a police baton :|
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#30
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Say it's yours, you brought it with you on the trip.


If they ask do this. I managed to get £500 worth of guitar pedals back in the summer no questions asked. Put it this way, customs are very "relaxed" about bringing things back unless its booze, cigs or something ridiculous like 10 guitars. It may have been because it was 4:30 in the morning, but no one even checked mine.

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#31
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i honestly couldn't agree more, i'm a 17 year old boy and I find it WAY too noisy in there though! great grub though x
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#32
My girlfriends dad has bought a few guitars from over there with no problems whatsoever. In fact we're going over there this christmas too, I might pick up a nice Schecter. He just loosens the strings and bungs it through the cargo hold in a gig bag. Not even a scratch. So far anyway :-s

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#34
I bought a guitar in the US and brought it back to Ireland without paying a cent. I wanted to bring it on the plane with me as opposed to checking it in as I couldn't afford a hard case for it and I was afraid it would get trashed.

I'm pretty sure you'll only get taxed if you have it shipped (delivered) to you. Anyway, if you just bring the guitar with you on the plane you should have no problems (they can't question whether you bought it in the US or brought it with you as long as you remove the tags etc.).
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#35
yeah i think that too, i'm one of these people that thinks
"well what'd make me so lucky?"
i'm not too keen on putting it in the hold due to my brand new guitar having a huge crack in it once weve landed for whatever reason, i might phone the airline before & let them know that i've got one & see what they say.

or would a hard case be enough to prevent ANY damage? x
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#36
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Take a crap guitar in the case, sell it, come back with new guitar

sounds good to me. Have you got your beginners guitar still?

edit: I see that you don't after reading the rest of the thread. Well...i dont know what to do.
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#37
i put my les paul in the cargo hold from UK to australia, in a hardshell case i didnt loosen the strings or anything, and its fine ive had no probs, but make sure u lock it!! we bought some of these heavy duty elastic strpis with locks on, aswell using the lock on on the case aswell.


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#38
Quote by livefastdiefun
I'm going to Florida soon and i'm going to buy a deluxe telecaster, which in England I think are about £900, whilst in the US they're £600.
but then i'm told I'll have to pay VAT & Import Duty on this..
which means i may aswell just get it here..
soo, are there anyways to avoid this payment?
i know it's a bit illegal and all, but you all understand me i'm sure
has anyone managed to avoid this themselves? x

You could always ask someone who's travelling to the US and back to take one with him/her, or if you know someone in the US going to the UK... etc. They can't charge tax on it if it's not an order - the person can simply say it's his/hers.
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#39
i brought a strat into the UK from Ohio, i just paid up the duty + VAT it was still a good deal and is right now considering the exchange rate.

you need to have owned it in the USA for 6 months to avoid any tax at all, at least that was the rule when i did it (about 16 years ago).
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I'm pretty sure you'll only get taxed if you have it shipped (delivered) to you. Anyway, if you just bring the guitar with you on the plane you should have no problems (they can't question whether you bought it in the US or brought it with you as long as you remove the tags etc.).


Technically speaking, they can question it, it's up to you to prove you didn't buy it there. Almost certainly they won't ask though. Customs very rarely stop people walking through the nothing to declare section.

I brought my MacBook through customs in Manchester and Dublin without any problem whatsoever.

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or would a hard case be enough to prevent ANY damage? x



A hardcase should be fine. They're designed to be taken on to flights and stuff like that. Just make sure it's locked properly though and maybe put something else around it too to stop it opening. The people at the check-in at the airport should also give you a fragile sticker so the people working at the airport won't treat it like shit.
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