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#1
Ok, here's the deal: I, hypothetically, am going to lock myself in my basement for about 5-8 years with nothing but a TV, a DVD player, a metronome, a lamp, and a guitar. What instructional books and videos would you recommend for me while I'm stuck in there? I've gotten suggestions, most of them being:

Rock Discipline by John Petrucci for chops
Doug Mark's Metal Method for theory


Anything else?
#3
well personally i think you would die what will u eat your guitar??? lol
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#8
Okay then, let's say I've got enough food to feed Yngwie Malmsteen for a day (about 6 months for regular people).

Anything else? One of you guys suggested Modern Method for Guitar....
#9
The Guitar by Ralph Denyer. Covers pretty much anything about maintenance, theory and history.
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#11
I think you should get all of your CD's,
get a CD player
an assload of batteries

and a few composition boooks.

Get ready to tab until your balls burst.
I don't even shred
#12
Matt Smith's Chop Shop for Guitar.

Great resource for theory, technique, and styles. It's like my theory bible. hehe

...and like defguy said, lots of porn
#13
When you get out of your Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Porn will be Obselete by Sex Robots.
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#14
don't forget about ear trainers, oens that slow down the song without changing the pitch.

And anything that teaches you to read music
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#15
Got some great suggestions here guys. It's really hard for me to learn theory for some reason. I think I've got "music dyslex-kia" or something. Right now, I'm focusing more on chop building based on Rusty Cooley's adivce.

Speaking of which, do any of you guys recommend Metal Method by Doug Marks? Or Learn and Master Guitar by Steve Krenz? I hear about those a lot and I was wondering if they live up to the hype.

As for the porn......well since we're here anyway, any recommendations?
#16
so euh... why are you going to lock yourself up ? (hypothetically)
#17
You don't need much.All you need is food, a guitar,a computer with internet access to update us. With a computer you may download songs,use a metronome with it,porn,etc etc.I'm sure you're gonna smell like **** without a bathroom though.

Lol,I highly doubt you're really gonna do that.
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#18
Playing guitar and jerking off for five years in your basement in going to take quite a toll on your body. There may be some emotional side affects as well, but hey im sure you'll be well versed in songs about beating off on hobbits.
#19
Michael angelo batio has a dvd, and Paul gilbert has like 4 dvd's. Jason Becker I think has something.
Theres alot of short youtube things.
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#20
How to Play Hard Rock & Heavy Metal Guitar by Andy Aledort.
I only lasted locked up in my room for about a day and a half
#21
I'll be sure to check out the Andy Aledort Book.

What about the Fretboard Logic book series? Is that worth spending time on? Or would I be better served browsing through my porn collection and creating fire with sticks?
#22
You might want to get a girlfriend and bring her along. I doubt that will happen so try getting a really close friend that also plays guitar (or bass!) and you guys can ****
#23
Well, I do know a hot girl who plays bass. She's bi though and kinda prefers the other team.

Ok, a girl to ****, check.

Anything else related to guitar lesson books or DVDs is welcome...
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Quote by pfizer
Ok, here's the deal: I, hypothetically, am going to lock myself in my basement for about 5-8 years with nothing but a TV, a DVD player, a metronome, a lamp, and a guitar. What instructional books and videos would you recommend for me while I'm stuck in there? I've gotten suggestions, most of them being:

Rock Discipline by John Petrucci for chops
Doug Mark's Metal Method for theory


Anything else?

Well, you can always go to demonoid and download all books and videos.

i recommend : Troy Stetina's ,Joe Satriani,Paul Gilbert,John Petrucci,Steve vai, get their books and vids that will be enought for 8 years.
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Okay then, let's say I've got enough food to feed Yngwie Malmsteen for a day (about 6 months for regular people).

Anything else? One of you guys suggested Modern Method for Guitar....


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Okay then, let's say I've got enough food to feed Yngwie Malmsteen for a day (about 6 months for regular people).
#28
Learn & Master Guitar with Steve Krenz is very comprehensive, plus you'll learn to read music notation as well.
#29
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Nope, nothing of the sort. I honestly don't know why I chose it....

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Learn & Master Guitar with Steve Krenz is very comprehensive, plus you'll learn to read music notation as well.


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John McLaughlin - This is the Way I do it.


Man, I've been searching for info for both of these for the longest time now and I usually find that the sites that review them are affiliated with the actual product so they kinda get a cut for every sale. That makes me kinda suspicious of the validity of the reviews.

With that being said, teegee420 and Myrdinn , have you both had actual experiences with the products you've suggested? And are they worth the steep price tags?

Okay so here's a quick recap of my survival gear:

- Malmsteen sized rations
- A hot girl to **** or ****, or if she's into it, ******* with a *****, *****,***. ****!
- A computer
- How to Play Hard Rock & Heavy Metal Guitar by Andy Aledort.
Rock Discipline
Learn and Master Guitar (pending)
Fretboard Logic (pending)


I've also heard good things about these for a LONG time now:
- Frank Gambale's Chop Builder
- Intense Rock Series by Paul Gilbert
- Metal Method 2007 Edition by Doug Marks


I still need your opinions guys! UG is one of the boards I really trust (the other being Sputnikmusic).
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Quote by pfizer
teegee420 and Myrdinn , have you both had actual experiences with the products you've suggested? And are they worth the steep price tags?
I own L&MG. You won't find a more complete training course around. It won't teach you everything about every genre, but it will provide you with a very strong foundation for building your guitar goals. I honestly believe it's worth the $150, which is $50 cheaper than what I payed for it last year. They have a very good return policy too. You have up to two months to decide if it's worth it. That's pretty rare these days. I'm not a shill for them, either. I've been a member here for a year and this is the first time I've even mentioned L&MG.
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I have McLaughlin's. Its ok from the standpoint if you want to copy a bunch of his
licks, there's a lot of examples of his soloing over things. But you really should
be very comfortable with your scales all over the neck and a good deal of theory.
You won't really get much of an explanation of it here. This is really geared for
an already technically competent and knowledgable player who wants more insight
into McLaughlin's playing.

Since this is a beginner's forum, I think there's a lot of other stuff you should look
at before you get this one.
#33
Quote by edg
I have McLaughlin's. Its ok from the standpoint if you want to copy a bunch of his
licks, there's a lot of examples of his soloing over things. But you really should
be very comfortable with your scales all over the neck and a good deal of theory.
You won't really get much of an explanation of it here. This is really geared for
an already technically competent and knowledgable player who wants more insight
into McLaughlin's playing.

Since this is a beginner's forum, I think there's a lot of other stuff you should look
at before you get this one.


Yeah, I've heard about that. I'm planning on going through Metal Method or Learn and Master Guitar first to sharpen my theory.

Just a question though, is Metal Method as comprehensive as it claims? I've heard from other people that it doesn't teach how to read music.....why is it that it's still around then?

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I own L&MG. You won't find a more complete training course around. It won't teach you everything about every genre, but it will provide you with a very strong foundation for building your guitar goals. I honestly believe it's worth the $150, which is $50 cheaper than what I payed for it last year. They have a very good return policy too. You have up to two months to decide if it's worth it. That's pretty rare these days. I'm not a shill for them, either. I've been a member here for a year and this is the first time I've even mentioned L&MG.


That's good to hear then. I'm gonna use that for my main theory builder. I wanna ask, does the course teach ear training as well? And how long would you say it would take for a complete beginner to get through the course?

Here's kinda what I'm planning for my stay in the basement:

THEORY/IMPROVISING
- Learn and Master Guitar by Steve Krenz
- Doug Mark's Metal Method 2007


CHOP BUILDING
- Rock Discipline with John Petrucci
- Intense Rock 1 & 2 with Paul Gilbert
- Frank Gambale's Chop Builder


I'm also thinking of getting some Rusty Cooley vids since I believe he's the only semi-famous shredder out there that professes to learning from the Metal Method videos.

On a related note, Matt Heafy(guitarist/vocalist for Trivium) is kind of an arrogant jackass but he's pretty good considering his age and he swears by Rock Discipline by Petrucci.

I've also read somewhere that Herman Li (from Dragonforce) learned his sweep picking from Frank Gambale. Now, I know he's sloppy as hell, but he's a boozer whereas I'm not so that should tighten up my playing, right?
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#34
Quote by pfizer

That's good to hear then. I'm gonna use that for my main theory builder. I wanna ask, does the course teach ear training as well? And how long would you say it would take for a complete beginner to get through the course?
L&MG doesn't comprehensively teach ear training. You'll learn to recognize a lot of notes as an indirect result of sight reading, but I wouldn't say that L&MG gives you a complete mastery of the fretboard. For that, there are PC programs like Fretboard Warrior and EarMaster Pro. As for how long it will take to run through L&MG, that depends on how often you practice. I read somewhere on the L&MG forum that it will take about 12 months if you're going at somewhat of a leisurely pace. By that I mean 30 minutes a day, at least three times per week. If you're more diligent, I'm sure you could knock it out in much less time.

Personally, I'm barely on lesson 3/20. I bought the course about a year ago and I made it to lesson 4 when a major tragedy occurred in my life. I didn't pick up my guitar with any seriousness for a good six months. I've been practicing every day since May of this year, but I've been pretty much doing my own thing. I mainly practice chord progressions, scales, improvising solos and I've been playing a lot of acoustic stuff for the last couple of months. To make a long story short, I have sort of hit a wall with my learning, which is why I have started using L&MG again. I forgot most of the theory and what little sight reading ability I had, so I had to start all over. Right now I practice for a good two hours every day, so I am allocating an hour of that for L&MG. I'm really looking forward to going through the upcoming lessons. Bottom line, I'm really glad I still have the course. I can't promise that you'll find it equally valuable, but I'm pretty sure that you won't find a better learning system out there.
#35
Dont you think thats an awful waste of your life?


I mean we do virtually the same thing, just we arent locked up... hahaha!
#36
Quote by pfizer
Ok, here's the deal: I, hypothetically, am going to lock myself in my basement for about 5-8 years with nothing but a TV, a DVD player, a metronome, a lamp, and a guitar. What instructional books and videos would you recommend for me while I'm stuck in there? I've gotten suggestions, most of them being:

Rock Discipline by John Petrucci for chops
Doug Mark's Metal Method for theory


Anything else?

You could of just said, does anyone recomend anything from films to T.V and instructional guitar guides.
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Quote by feltgrape
Michael angelo batio has a dvd, and Paul gilbert has like 4 dvd's. Jason Becker I think has something.
Theres alot of short youtube things.

The michael angelo batio dvd isn't that bad. i recamend the speed kills and speed licks dvds, and the basic 6 dvds if you are starting out
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Quote by kidsilcon
You could of just said, does anyone recomend anything from films to T.V and instructional guitar guides.


Yeah, but then I'll be ignored. Just having some fun, mate.


Quote by teegee420
L&MG doesn't comprehensively teach ear training. You'll learn to recognize a lot of notes as an indirect result of sight reading, but I wouldn't say that L&MG gives you a complete mastery of the fretboard. For that, there are PC programs like Fretboard Warrior and EarMaster Pro. As for how long it will take to run through L&MG, that depends on how often you practice. I read somewhere on the L&MG forum that it will take about 12 months if you're going at somewhat of a leisurely pace. By that I mean 30 minutes a day, at least three times per week. If you're more diligent, I'm sure you could knock it out in much less time.

Personally, I'm barely on lesson 3/20. I bought the course about a year ago and I made it to lesson 4 when a major tragedy occurred in my life. I didn't pick up my guitar with any seriousness for a good six months. I've been practicing every day since May of this year, but I've been pretty much doing my own thing. I mainly practice chord progressions, scales, improvising solos and I've been playing a lot of acoustic stuff for the last couple of months. To make a long story short, I have sort of hit a wall with my learning, which is why I have started using L&MG again. I forgot most of the theory and what little sight reading ability I had, so I had to start all over. Right now I practice for a good two hours every day, so I am allocating an hour of that for L&MG. I'm really looking forward to going through the upcoming lessons. Bottom line, I'm really glad I still have the course. I can't promise that you'll find it equally valuable, but I'm pretty sure that you won't find a better learning system out there.


That good to know. Also, great that you've started playing again. A lot of people usually turn to a hobby or something when they experience a personal loss.

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The michael angelo batio dvd isn't that bad. i recamend the speed kills and speed licks dvds, and the basic 6 dvds if you are starting out


When you say 6 Basic DVDs, do you mean the Metal Method Basic Course?

I'm honestly kinda intimidated by Speed Kills just because Batio's inhumanly fast. How's he as a teacher?
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Yeah, it would be. I'll have you on my list if that ever happens.....


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