#1
hey i have been playing guitar for 2 years now, and i have been able to play alot of different songs, but whenever i try to compose my own songs. I FREAKIN SUCK AT IT. is it just that i suck or sometin or is there like any tips that anyone uses to wright songs, sometimes I comeup with something, and im like hey thats good, but then I relize i just stole it from another song. I NEED HELP!!!!!
#2
i might be wrong but, for me..before you start coming up with good stuff, like chord progressions, licks and riffs..it might take like 4-6 years of playing. unless you play blues
#4
it just takes time. i do the same thing as far as realizing i 'stole' a riff, so i toss it or i change it up a bit.
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#5
Easy way to start is mixing up open chords or power chords. Once you get a decent riff, write it down. Then think of a little bridge part, maybe an intro. Then find they key and solo over it.

Same with open chords. Just learn chords, finding keys, and using scales.
#6
if you havent already, learn your theory. it is nearly essential if you want to write your own good stuff
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yeah dude i agree wit TJM just put some good power chords together,learn a few scales like Aminor penatonic and solo over em you'll do fine, the problem is putting vocals with your guitar part ha
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#9
do you know scales???

If you dont you should learn them very well so that they come naturaly and you can creat your own stuff and improvise wich is very very fun

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#10
use easy stuff, like power chords, and then add lead stuff to make it better. it is hard, but you do not have to play lik 6 years or anything...
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#11
I started writing my own songs only two months after I started playing, simple powerchord based stuff, and as my abilities improved so did my songwriting. Normally I just imagine a riff in my head then I try to play it on the guitar, or sometimes I write some lyrics and start building around that. My lyrics have a very narrative style, some of them sound like stories and many are about characters I come up with, like, I wrote one in Portuguese recently called " A Dama-de-pés-de-cabra (The Lady with goat feet)" based on a old Portuguese folk tale and before that I wrote one called "Queen of Hearts" that was about a Evil Empretress, I used a lot of poker and card metaphors on that one. Putting It simple, you need a theme. Something to build the song around. And about that "Oh, this riff isn't original" you need to realise that music is as old as the Homo Sapiens, and stringed guitar-like instruments have been around for 800 years so it's pretty normal that something doesn't sound new, you just have to keep working it and adding your own personal touches.
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#12
just keep writing songs, no mattter how crappy they are, at one point your gonna make a song that you dig.
its a lot like practicing.. the more you write, chances are, your gonna get better at it.

Also Malmsteen once said that if you cant improvise, you cant write good songs, to some extent i agree, and i know that if you can improvise, it would definately be an asset to everything. so work on improvising.
#13
yea but im trying to right solos not power chord songs, i like solos, like really cool ones, something like the solo from stricken
#14
yeah well you start from the bottom, and solos are not the bottom...power chords first, unless you already know which scales you should use for the song...
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Also Malmsteen once said that if you cant improvise, you cant write good songs, to some extent i agree, and i know that if you can improvise, it would definately be an asset to everything. so work on improvising.



So true... Most of my riffs are born when I'm playing around in the fretboard. I play something that sounds good, work it a bit, put it on a tab so I won't forget it, then work it a bit more, find what key it's in and try to find a nice scale for the leads.

And back to that "originality problem", I made a little intro for a song I'm working on called "Omega Day". It's based on the first riff of "Orion" by Metallica (mostly inverted powerchords with a droning Low E), but I changed it so much it's irrecognisable. Just try modifing a riff you like until it's considerably different from the original.
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#16
Some people are born writers, other people have to sit down and spend months working on a song, only to find it inferior to something created in a few seconds.
#18
Hum the solo out in your head

Then go back, note by note, and match every single one up on the guitar.
It takes a long time and a lot of practice, but this is a very useful trick for writing riffs
#19
try improvising over some backing tracks, guitarbt.com or freelicks.net . that will give you a feel for using your guitar as a voice.
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yea but im trying to right solos not power chord songs, i like solos, like really cool ones, something like the solo from stricken



Solos are the last part you should write. They're like the climax of a movie! Would you go see a action movie just for the big explosion in the end? No! You'll want to see all those gunfights and one-liners, then comes the explosion. You need all the riffs and leads from the rest of the song to write the solo. Some people just grab a scale in the key of the song and make a solo that doesn't even fit in it, I'm not like that. I like to make the solo fit the song as much as possible. If you listen to some Metallica or Megadeth you'll see what I mean, the solos normally play over a riff of the song or are based from one. It just makes the song make more sense to the casual listener, you've got to rembember that your audience normally doesn't know anything about writing and music theory, they just want a cool, good sounding song.
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Hum the solo out in your head

Then go back, note by note, and match every single one up on the guitar.
It takes a long time and a lot of practice, but this is a very useful trick for writing riffs


yea i do that and i start to think its great but it still sucks
#23
well, how long have you been writing songs, naturally your first songs are gonna suck, I remember mine did because I tried to write songs after like 2 weeks of playing, and trust me they were terrible, but eventually I just practiced writing and they started getting better and about a month ago I wrote a song with a solo that Im really proud of, so you just got to practice
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#24
i'm the opposite of you, i have endless idea for riffs and lick but when i try to cover songs i just never can. no matter how simple i just can never force myself to learn other peoples stuff.

What you need to do is get down chord and scale structure theory as well as some general music theory (time sigs, note duration etc)

Once you have that down buy or download some backing tracks and have a go at making stuff up over the top, just improvise. Once you feel comfortable doing this you should find it easier to come up with riffs.
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#25
tbh first u need a chord progression to play a scale over from that create a riff which will be the basis of ur song. then u can go on from there
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#26
listen to ur favorite band for inspiration. sometimes i'll listen to death and make a death metal sounding riff.
#28
Hey guys, i have the same problem, been playing for 4 years, i know my theory scales and stuff, i can make good sounding songs but the problem is there all "acousticy" stuff the way i play chords and play blues scales shizz over them. I want to be able to make them sound more like rock so i can use it in my band, any help please?
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