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#1
I have a dilemma. I was going to play Orion for the school variety show (it's in a month) but our bassist backed out of the act to play another song that his girlfriend wants to sing. (she ain't exactly velvet voiced, it's gonna suck)

Anyway, looks like I'm gonna have to do something else. I'd like to play Canon Rock, but I have no experience sweeping. Do you think I can learn it in a month?
#2
If you're pretty good at playing already, and you have plenty of time to practise, you can make a convincing attempt.
#3
No way, too hard for one month. I've been sweeping for a few months and it took me ages before I could do the sweeps in Canon
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#4
If you've never done sweeping, no i wouldn't waste my time trying to learn it in one month.
#5
I've been learning sweeping for months on and off, I still can't get 3 string sweeps perfect
#6
started learning to sweep when id been playin a year, took me about a month to get the basics of it sorted, meant that i could do 6 string sweeps at a constant pace (not gentaro like speed or anything) but at a speed that felt nice. but to be honest i think the easiest way (if you have tabs) is find the bit thats sweeping, and start learning it, if within a few days your not getting it, it aint gonna work
#7
It'll be very tough, but if you work really hard you might have a chance, just don't expect it to be perfect
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#8
Maybe it's just me but I found Sweep picking to really easy I learned it in about two days on three strings and then almost 2 weeks for full barre chords if you're like me than it won't take that long.
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#9
Is this crystal clear with correct muting or just blaming out the notes?
#10
I could sweep in 2 weeks, cleanly though...no, that took months.
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#11
That's where I still struggle, still don't have the picking hand motion perfected, so the muting is dodgy
#12
well, 3 string, like 1-2 days, ive been practicing 5 string sweeps for atleast 1 month, its ok, all i need to do is get rid of the unwanted noise, just practice it slowley then build up speed


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#13
No I've looked at offical tabs for that song... And I'm sure that if you aint sweeping now their is no chance you'll be able to play this song... Better off learning no boundries... wait no still too much sweeping... yeah your screwed dude...


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#15
I have like 1 year practicing sweep picking and i still suck. But maybe is just me.
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#16
I've been trying to learn it for a few months now, but I just can't move my left hand fingers fast enough. I'm just too inexperienced I suppose. I've been playing for a little over 2 years now. Maybe I've just broken my fingers too many times or something but what ever.

I've just been practising scales and alternate picking & string skipping riffs, those seem to have helped my sweeping speed a bit.
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#18
Cleanly, in a month?

Depends how fast you want to go, but even Canon Rock speed it will be incredibly difficult.
I've been practicing sweeping for about 6 months now and i still suck at it, listen to my sweep picking skill on my profile.

3 string sweeps can be harder, as it requires more work in the picking hand, but 5 string sweeps have more work for the fretting hand.
Really depends what you get good at.
#19
yeah man, i'm still learning on how to sweep
i've been learning to sweep for about a year, and it's getting a lil easier.
it's still hard making each individual note sound clean, that'll take alot of time.

there's like NO way of learning how to sweep good enough in a month, for a preformance!
you should just stick with what your good at now and take your time learning sweeping later
#20
Took me a few months to learn how to do it properly, you will be able to start doing it pretty quick but you really takes time to lay solid foundations..

I think you need to hang out with a great blues rock player, like most shredders, after a while you'll see how all pretty much 90% of shred sounds crap when ompared to a wailing rocker! at a gig the only people who get the "shred" are other "shredders" lol.. Having said that practicing shred lays good foundations for when a player develops a real style..

If you reckon your good enough to try cannon rock though, why not try surfing with the alien, much more fun to play!
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#21
Seriously, if its within the month and you havnt had much experiance in sweeping, dont bother with it. Or, just play most of it without the sweeping, it sounds quite decent without all that.
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#22
Well, having read this, I think I'll probably have to figure out another song, I doubt I'll learn it properly in a month...

Can anyone think of any other songs? I have a hard time singing while I play so that's out and I don't have a band... That eliminates pretty much everything. If it turns out that I can't pull anything off then I'll just work towards playing next year, but if you have any suggestions, I'm glad to hear them.
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I've been learning sweeping for months on and off, I still can't get 3 string sweeps perfect

same here


#25
i learnt 3 string sweeps in a couple of hours maybe

then spent a few hours initially getting 5 string sweeps down then just practiced abit everytime i picked the guitar up for a few days
they were pretty good after that

depends how good you are initially
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Can anyone think of any other songs? I have a hard time singing while I play so that's out and I don't have a band... That eliminates pretty much everything. If it turns out that I can't pull anything off then I'll just work towards playing next year, but if you have any suggestions, I'm glad to hear them.


Backing track? and some Satriani (surfing w/alien!) or Vai (for the love of god)?
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#27
I just watched a youtube vid of surfing with alien -- no way can I do that.

I might be able to pull off The Love of God, but the shred part of it probably not... I could just do the first few mintues though.
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#29
i stil cant do the sweeps after a good 7 months of actual trying (off and on)
no teacher but It is hard if it was only 3 string then yeah but canon rock's a bitch at that part
#30
it took me about 2 months to get practicing arpegios slowly, over the next 2 months i started working on the picking technique...and then i got it all down shortly afterwarsds...
i can do 3 and 4 strings perfecvtly, but doing a 5th is mad hard, still practicing that
i listend to alot of avenged sevenfold to help me out with arpegio patterns and the chords that match them

so id say no...you can try to alternate pick the arpegios, but that wouldnt actually be sweeping, id suggest you try a different song or somehting...a month is pointless if your not good already and you never have practice time
if you are good and you have the time,...go for it! it wouln hurt to try
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#31
I've been working on sweeps for the past 6 months. They're not perfect but they're good enough.

You could always try the legato arpeggios that Joe Satriani does. You mute with the right hand and do the sweep with the left hand.
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#32
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What exactly is sweeping?


Pretty much playing chords one note at a time without letting the notes ring out. No picking, but a rake motion across the strings. Lets you play notes blazing fast without picking.
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#34
I just started sweeping in August, and just recently I have perfected them. I can now learn pretty much most shapes in a matter of minutes and get it up to speed
#36
If you already can Play Canon Rock, but can not sweep, just change the sweeping bit to something else. like maybe hammer on a scale quickly. =S

or play another song.
#37
it took me about 2 days to get the coordination down, then about 1-2 weeks to build up to speed. you need to warm up alot and pick a definite pattern before you get it smooth though. ill never use that **** live or in my band lol. maybe like 2 years down the line haha - it takes some practice, we had band practice today and I thought i was getting it down - so i showed my band mates my progress and they made fun of me and told me i was a crappy guitar player...lol
#38
Depends how long it takes you to get intothe correct motion, when I did after about a week of practice, all I had to do was work on m speed.

But please, for the love of god, don't play that atrocity.
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I just watched a youtube vid of surfing with alien -- no way can I do that.


Surfing With the Alien is not hard at all- Stay well away from Canon Rock if you can't do SWTA. To be fair though, SWTA is a lot easier than it looks/sounds.

I would recommend a slow-ish blues song, like some Clapton or Zeppelin (Since I've Been Loving You perhaps?).
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I've been learning sweeping for months on and off, I still can't get 3 string sweeps perfect


Ditto.
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