#1
i got it at the store today, gonna read it tonight/tomorrow.

featuring "the ultimate" Johnny Rotten interview - "The ramones to me were never punk"

also featuring - Blondie

The Clash

The Damned

Television

The dictators

Ramones

The Slits

The Stranglers

X-Ray Spex <3333

The Germs

BUZZCOCKS

AND MORE!!


also, essential 30 albums and 110 songs.


sounds good. anyone read it?
#2
nope, but i think i might hafta go get it now, but Johnny Rotten's full of **** if he's saying Ramones werent punk O.o
#3
Quote by blackflag49
Johnny Rotten is such a douche.
He really is. I might buy this, it should be a good read
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Quote by Bob_Sacamano
i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
#5
i read the Johnny rotten interview, its really good.

i can't dislike him for saying what he honestly wholeheartedly believes, thats just stupid, i respect him more for speaking his mind although i may not agree.

but i came to a startling revelation last night.

i really hate scenes.

like, my scene in town is nonextistant, the punk scene back in the seventies really puts me off for some reason, the 80s revival and hardcore got all screwed up, it all is so, i don't know i don't like it.

i just wanna have fun, go see bands, drink and smoke. but they screw it all up with fashion, large joint ideals and association.

ugh.

i feel, i dunno what the word is.
#6
I love The Ramones, but I can see where Johnny is coming from. The Ramones really never tried to be punk, and they had plenty of poppy songs. I would consider them punk, but they are a bit lighter than, say, the Sex Pistols or Dead Kennedys.
#7
Quote by neidnarb11890
I love The Ramones, but I can see where Johnny is coming from. The Ramones really never tried to be punk, and they had plenty of poppy songs. I would consider them punk, but they are a bit lighter than, say, the Sex Pistols or Dead Kennedys.
Wouldn't not trying to be punk make you more punk?
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Quote by Bob_Sacamano
i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
#8
Quote by element4433
Wouldn't not trying to be punk make you more punk?

I suppose... But you know what I mean

EDIT:
Also, it says "The Ramones to me were never punk." So it sounds like he's stating an opinion rather than being an elitist douche bag.
Last edited by neidnarb11890 at Oct 12, 2007,
#10
Quote by neidnarb11890
I suppose... But you know what I mean

EDIT:
Also, it says "The Ramones to me were never punk." So it sounds like he's stating an opinion rather than being an elitist douche bag.
Yeah I was just being an ass.

I know its just an opinion. I haven't read the article, but to me that statement sounds like he's trying to belittle what the Ramones have done and make what he did seem more important.
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Quote by Bob_Sacamano
i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown
#11
Quote by element4433
Yeah I was just being an ass.

I know its just an opinion. I haven't read the article, but to me that statement sounds like he's trying to belittle what the Ramones have done and make what he did seem more important.

Well, knowing Johnny Rotten, I'm sure that's what it is.
#12
Quote by blackflag49
I feel the same way, and that's basically what punk started out as. Just people playing rock n' roll, going to shows, and hanging out. You didn't have to dress or think a certain way, or even care. I think it's called being nihilistic.

People need to go back to that.



yeah i call it not giving a ****.
lol.
#13
I flipped through the magazine in the store and i think it said one of the ramones pissed in a beer and watched him drink it, so there might be a slight bias here. The ramones are awesome
#14
Well it's true! If the Ramones came out today, most of you would be calling them what you call Green Day.
#15
Johnny doesnt like the Ramones cuz DeeDee pissed in his beer
purple nurple!

Quote by RizzoWashburn
dis meanz yoo can make three p0nx albums!

One that sucks, one that doesn't suck, and one that nobody cares about!
#16
That's right, but he pretends that he doesn't like them because they pretend to be dumb, and after a while that's what you become.

"it's a bit like one flew over the cuckoo's nest"
#17
Quote by original=punk

i just wanna have fun, go see bands, drink and smoke. but they screw it all up with fashion, large joint ideals and association.

ugh.

i feel, i dunno what the word is.


Just move to the South, we know how to get down.
HELP ME I'M TRAPPED IN A HUMAN BODY!
#18
Quote by whyvern
Just move to the South, we know how to get down.


YEAH! UP DA DIRTY SOUF PONX!
#19
Quote by original=punk

featuring "the ultimate" Johnny Rotten interview - "The ramones to me were never punk"


It's funny, check out a tv show, most of it's on google video now - called "The Punk Years."

The best part is that John Lydon is in every episode, and he'll say something, every time, almost exactly like "Well yeah, _____ were good... But it's not Punk, is it?"

"Yeah, the Ramones were good... But they weren't Punk."
"The Buzzcocks were good... But is it really Punk?"
"Polly Styrene was wonderful... But it's not Punk, is it?"
Posers are like punks, except they do it for fashion

notUG PUNK FORUM PRESIDENT!
#20
well the Ramones were Punk, wether you like it or not, or think they were poppy or whawtever, they released the poppy songs as singles, as in to make a buck. AT FIRST, they played, Loud, Fast, Raw, Rock n Roll, with cheap equipment, pleanty of drugs and simple lyrics, and that's what punk is - or was... all the post 1980 punk was really hardcore punk, post-punk, alternative, indie what ever the **** ever.

yeah I love 77 Punk the most...

and yes i love the Sex Pistols too
I love all forms of Rock 'n' Roll, past and NOT present
#22
Quote by Mav-16
well the Ramones were Punk, wether you like it or not, or think they were poppy or whawtever, they released the poppy songs as singles, as in to make a buck. AT FIRST, they played, Loud, Fast, Raw, Rock n Roll, with cheap equipment, pleanty of drugs and simple lyrics, and that's what punk is - or was... all the post 1980 punk was really hardcore punk, post-punk, alternative, indie what ever the **** ever.

yeah I love 77 Punk the most...

and yes i love the Sex Pistols too


Well, if we're talking The Ramones, that's '74 punk XD
Posers are like punks, except they do it for fashion

notUG PUNK FORUM PRESIDENT!
#23
Quote by ss311
Well it's true! If the Ramones came out today, most of you would be calling them what you call Green Day.

BAN! , i doubt it, RAMONES might sound soft but they aren't commercial **** as green day.. and they would never cut their hair


Sex Pistols vs Ramones?
i think Sex Pistols is more 'fake', they we're put together by a manager... not really punk is it
and they we're more about the clothes n stuff than about the music...
#24
yeah, ramones were never punk. johnny was a conservative. they wore uniforms, they write cheesy love songs. but i guess you can say they started pop-punk. but i still think their music is awesome. and thats what matters most
#25
Quote by ss311
Well it's true! If the Ramones came out today, most of you would be calling them what you call Green Day.


YES! that is so true, dude. most people just like ramones cos they are "legends", people would start to like greenday in 20 years time. ramones was under sire records which is also under warner bros music group. so that doesnt make them less mainstream then green day by a feet. and honestly, the only reason I dont like greenday because yes, they are too commercialise, they sold out the good name of punk rock but deep down i know dookie was pop punk when i heard it
#26
Quote by recklessnick
yeah, ramones were never punk. johnny was a conservative. they wore uniforms, they write cheesy love songs. but i guess you can say they started pop-punk. but i still think their music is awesome. and thats what matters most


However, they were doing it at a time when, well, nobody else was.

Maybe they didn't wear mohawks and studs. But at the time... Nobody did.

It's easy to look back and say The Ramones weren't punks, but you have to appreciate that punk was hardly even a small New York scene.
Posers are like punks, except they do it for fashion

notUG PUNK FORUM PRESIDENT!
#27
did i say any of those? did i even say i listen to sum 41? is punk about being conservative and wearing uniforms? the answer is no. so stop stereotyping everything i say just because i said uniforms isnt punk. dont jump to conclusions as if you are the punk rock master and you know exactly was it and wats not. im just stating my opinion, you ****ing asshole, go fist yourself in the ass
#28
Quote by recklessnick
did i say any of those? did i even say i listen to sum 41? is punk about being conservative and wearing uniforms? the answer is no. so stop stereotyping everything i say just because i said uniforms isnt punk. dont jump to conclusions as if you are the punk rock master and you know exactly was it and wats not. im just stating my opinion, you ****ing asshole, go fist yourself in the ass


Chill out. No more disrespect please.