#1
Hi guys, I am trying to find an alright guitar and amp for my buddy.
He wants to start playing metal.
His budget is around 400 euro's.

He dont need a very loud amp at all since he will probably have to use headphones most of the time. So I thought about a Roland Micro Cube what do you say guys?
For the guitar I found this: Dean Vendetta 1.0 Anyone got any other ideas?

The rest of the money will probably be used for some cables and stuff.
#2
I'd say the Cube would be a good choice, I'd personally rather have a cheap schecter or ibanez though, not a fan of lower end deans.

This is one of the few times I'd actually recommend spending more money on the guitar than amp.

I'd go for something like a RG321 or RG2EX1 and the Cube. Should last a long time.
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#4
I dunno about the guitar but instead of the Microcube (which i have and love, it's just not that good for metal) instead get a 30 watt Cube (has more options and isn't beastly expensive either).

But if that is too loud than definatly go for the microcube. But keep in mind that can just turn down the 30 watt and it does sound just as good.
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#7
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How about the new Schecter Demon?


Yeah, that could work as well. I thought Schecters were pretty overpriced in Europe though?
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#8
I actually didn't mind the $100 Dean Vendetta I played. A change from the stock strings and a little neck care, and it would have been a beautiful player.
I hear a lot of hate on them around UG, but I like the 50 level ESP LTD's I've played (like this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-EC50-Electric-Guitar?sku=516672). Pickups arn't anything to write home about, but what can you do. Otherwise, look at a used Ibanez RG series. Try to stay away from an Ibanez with an A in the model #. IE, RG321 > RGA321, or whatever.
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I actually didn't mind the $100 Dean Vendetta I played. A change from the stock strings and a little neck care, and it would have been a beautiful player.
I hear a lot of hate on them around UG, but I like the 50 level ESP LTD's I've played (like this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-EC50-Electric-Guitar?sku=516672). Pickups arn't anything to write home about, but what can you do. Otherwise, look at a used Ibanez RG series. Try to stay away from an Ibanez with an A in the model #. IE, RG321 > RGA321, or whatever.


Isn't a RGA321 a Prestige model...?
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Mabye I'm thinking of S versus SA? Hell if I know, I'm tired.


Haha, well the S series are the ones with the SZ trems in them (great trems) and the SA come with the vintage style trems if I'm not mistaken.
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#12
Ok, I did my backchecking. Stay away from Ibanez's with a G in front of the model number. GRG < RG.

Thanks for pointing out my suck, MatrixClaw!
#13
Haha, well the S series are the ones with the SZ trems in them (great trems) and the SA come with the vintage style trems if I'm not mistaken.


Actually its called a ZR trem.
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#14
that's wrong, I have a grg 270 and I think it's great for beginners.
Of course it's not teh guitar, but I can't complain about it...
The only thing a more experienced guy once told me, is that I maybe could grind a bit of the ends of the frets... they were a BIT too long and this could hurt after a time of shredding. xD
I don't know about the grg170, but I say the 270 is a nice, solid and cheap solution.

For the amp I'd also take a cube, or microcube. Distortion pedals are 80-100€ if your friend wants more distortion for the microcube...

cheers!
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Ok, I did my backchecking. Stay away from Ibanez's with a G in front of the model number. GRG < RG.

Thanks for pointing out my suck, MatrixClaw!


haha, yeah, that sounds more like it! the rga121 is very nice.

+1 on matrix claw's suggestion of the rg321 + cube- just make sure your friend doesn't go for either the cube 15 or 20x- your friend's best bet is either the cube 30x, or if he can't stretch to that, the microcube. Because the 15 and 20 don't have the amp models, which is what you want the amp for in the first place.

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Actually its called a ZR trem.


Yeah I know, I don't know what I was thinking last night, too tired haha
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#18
That Dean isn't terrible, and wold make a perfectly fine starter guitar. Like someone stated earlier, some minor neck care, and string change would be a given. The pickups aren't the greatest, although people would be surprised with what even a cheap pickup upgrade will do.

I have a Dean ML X that plays pretty decently, keeps in tune and feels ok. wasn't happy with the pickups though, and I found a set of "Powered by Lace" humbuckers that I got for real cheap (approx $35USD for the set). Yes, I know they're cheap, but it was my first experiment with modding a guitar. Even though they were inexpensive, it made a world of difference in tone.

Anyways, the Dean's super inexpensive, and if you're unsure if he'll even stick with playing the guitar, it won't break the bank. If he sticks with it, it can easily be modified, and without spending too much on it either.
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