#1
Not sure if anyone Heard about this and Im pritty sure this belongs in the PIT

I thought i seen the last of horrible things in life december 8th 2004 when i got news that one of my idolized Guitarist was shot and killed.

Guess not
-Taken off a Myspace and News Post Blog Off BVR...

Your Words Mr Grim Will Be Your Death...

Here's an article of Mr. William Grim calling Dimebag Darrell semi-human barbarian, and all the heavy metal culture a soul-deadening culture of death, ugliness, depravity and inhumanity. It perfectly shows Mr. Grim as cynical, lame, pathetic, and hopeless animal that has neither heart nor soul.
I sincerely hope he'll rot in Hell and it's just too sad that this kind of human (I'd actually called him a self-human, it fits just fine to him) might be a parent. I have pity to his children as I can't imagine what kind of dictator he is at home. Anyway here's his article:

AESTHETICS OF HATE: R.I.P. DIMEBAG ABBOTT, & GOOD RIDDANCE -- Time For Conservative Imagination! by William Grim, Iconoclast Contributing Editor

You've undoubtedly heard by now that a demented fan last week killed heavy metal guitarist Dimebag Abbott at the Alrosa Villa in Columbus, Ohio. While I am extremely happy to hear that the assassin was shot to death by a brave Columbus policeman and I in no way want to engage in a blaming the victim scenario, I cannot deny that there much in Mr. Abbott..s demise of one being hoisted on one's petard. The squalor, inhumanity, filth (both in the metaphorical and hygienic senses), depravity, ugliness and ignorance of everything that heavy metal represents (Like rap, I cannot use the noble term music in a description of heavy metal) creates a mindset among its devotees in which Mr. Abbott's assassination was an event that was all but waiting to happen. It was highly amusing, and also terribly sad, to watch on television fans conducting a "vigil" for the slain Mr. Abbott outside of the Alrosa Villa. It was an assemblage of ignorant, semi-human barbarians who were filthy in attire and manner, intellectually incoherent and above all else, hideously ugly to the point of physical deformity. Here is a definite case in which the outer appearance of these "fans" accurately represented the hideousness of their souls. That the physical deformity of their ugliness was self-inflicted makes the spiritual tragedy of their misspent lives all the more tragic. But one can see why the heavy metal fans so closely identified with Mr. Abbott. He was an ignorant, barbaric, untalented possessor of a guitar and large amplifier system. Freakish in appearance, more simian than human, he was the performer of a type of "entertainment" that can be likened only to a gorilla on PCP. Lacking subtlety, wit, style, emotional range and anything approaching even the smallest iota of intellectual or musical interest, Mr. Abbott was part of a generation that has confused sputum with art and involuntary reflex actions with emotion. De gustibus non disputandem est. Matters of taste are not subject to argument. That has been a general principle of aesthetics for some time, and when we are talking about the visceral preference for Mozart or Haydn or Beethoven among civilized human beings we are on pretty safe ground. I do not understand exactly why I prefer Haydn to my good friend who prefers Beethoven. But we both agree (as do all civilized human beings) that both Messrs. Haydn and Beethoven are numerous steps further along the evolutionary trail than Dimebag Abbott. Here is one area in which conservatives have failed and failed miserably. Whether it is out of a lack of interest or despair, conservatives for too long have ceded the entire field of aesthetics to the trust fund red babies of the blue states. And look at what this has brought us. So-called heavy metal music, so-called rap music, operas and stage plays in which modern "stagings" reduce Verdi and Shakespeare to the condition of a schizophrenic's finger paintings. Leftist domination in the visual arts has made a mockery of the aesthetic greatness of modernism and replaced it with the turd encased in Lucite. And the grammatically-challenged racist rantings of Amiri Baraka now pass for poetry. However, we conservatives should not confuse family values with aesthetics. In the realm of art, our evangelical brethren have many crimes to answer for. When a church replaces Bach with Bacharach it has engaged in the aesthetic rape of the liturgy. Just because one has good intentions and approaches the numinous with "sincerity" and "authenticity" (the latter term ironically being a buzzword among the Marxist aestheticians of the Frankfurt School), that does not absolve one from aesthetic responsibility. As far as I am concerned, those who advocate a dumbed-down liturgy and schlocky pop music substitutes for Bach, Handel and the masses of the Renaissance, are as offensive as the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church and his perverse sexual politics. Part of the hard work of civilization is teaching young to be able to distinguish between the good and the bad in all aspects of life. If we teach our young children to obey the 10 Commandments and to obey the laws of the land, but don't teach them to realize that Johann Sebastian Bach is superior to Dimebag Abbott, we have failed as parents and mentors. If a person has gone through 12 or 13 years of education and has not developed an appreciation for the greatest artistic achievements of mankind, that education has been an utter failure. While laissez-faire is the correct approach to economics it has no place in the realm of aesthetics or morality. A confidant civilization imposes its morality and aesthetics on it young people. Yes, you heard it right. We impose. The Rousseauian noble savage is a myth. Left unchecked and untutored the savage will never attain nobility. There are those who will accuse me of elitism. And I admit it. I am a conservative elitist. I want the very best. The very best form of government, the very best of civilizations, the very best educational system, the very best literature and art, the very best music, the very best way of life. If I need open heart surgery I want to go to an elite heart surgeon. Mediocrity is the goal of socialism. Americans should aspire to greatness. In the past forty years, conservatives have won great victories in the political, economic and moral realms, but we stand to throw all our gains away if we do not reclaim ascendancy in the aesthetic realm as well. And while the murder of even a semi-human barbarian like Mr. Abbott is tragic and to be lamented, it would be wrong to ignore Mr. Abbott's complicity in contributing to the soul-deadening culture of death, ugliness, depravity and inhumanity that spawned his killer. Hugo von Hofmannsthal once remarked that "all powerful imaginations are conservative." It is time for conservatives to utilize their imaginations and reclaim the field of aesthetics from the left-that is, while there is still something left in the aesthetic realm worth reclaiming. Iconoclast contributing editor William E. Grim is a writer who lives in Germany and is a native of Columbus, Ohio. He may be reached at wgrim@myrealbox.com.

MAY THE ****ER ROT IN HELL.

DIMEBAG DARRELL IS, WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A LEGEND. (R.I.P.)

Please feel free to repost onto your own blog. Make the world see the kind of lowlife crap that lives among us.

METAL. FOR. ****ING. ETERNITY. ..m/


If You take the time to read all of this its very sad how somone can say such things...
Member #2 of the dean owners club, PM g1asseye to join.

92% of teens have moved on to rap repost this if you are one of the 8% that listen to real music


Rock IN Peace Darrell Lance Abbott \m/
#3
That's really old to be honest mate. Machine Head's song "Aesthetics of Hate" is based on it, check it out.
#4
yea machine head sums it up pretty well

stupid bitches
dimebag > them
Quote by yawn
It just occurred to me that UG attracts a lot of socially isolated male teenagers with questionable psychological dispositions.


Quote by I'm_Guitarded
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Whip and Chains Excite Me!!



Got'em!
#5
Bad thread title man.

This was like 2 years ago
Quote by gallagher2006
Whats a Steve Vai? Floyd Rose ripoff?

Quote by Mr. Twelve
Behold...the Arctopus are obviously music. I don't see how anyone could say they're not music compared to many modern and post-modern composers. That being said, I think B...tA are terrible.
#6
i lost you when you said something about dimebag dying being the last of the horrible things to happen in your life. i hope your family knows that you've already decided that their deaths will be meaningless compared to a guitarist you didn't know.

so he died and some people don't care.... get on with your ****.
#7
summary: conservative ****tard speaking out of his insanely ignorant ass. Im no dimebag fan myself, but I will smile if all these types of people die.
#8
Wow. This guy is retarded. Not only is he an ignorant, narrow-minded and disrespectful fuck, but he also seems to be physically incapable of using paragraphs. That disgusting rant was absolutely tortuous to read even regardless of its content.
#9
Eh. He can say what he wants, what's the big deal? Offensive, sure, but keep in mind that freedom of speech doesn't protect the speech you love, it protects the speech you hate.
When crying don't help
You can't compose yourself
It's best to compose a poem
An honest verse of longing
Or a simple song of hope...
#10
Y'know, I've never read this before. Very old, but I've never looked for it.

He sounds like one of those little kids hiding behind the internet, and using big words to sound intelligent. Unfortunately, aside from his inherent message, he comes across like an arrogant ****wit, whose entire 'message' uses awful examples to try and justify itself.
My name is Marc! Silly username.
#11
I want to brutally rape and murder that sob who went so far as to say those things. There are kids at school who are so anti-metal, but this is a brand low. Hell, this isn't low. IT'S ****ING ROCK BOTTOM. I want to rip out his heart and show it to him. I want to gut him like a fish and eat him. Then rape him. Again. And again. Until he's dead. AGAIN.

Btw I don't listen to heavy metal.
#12
Never Heard Of This 2 Years ago

Thanks for the info
Member #2 of the dean owners club, PM g1asseye to join.

92% of teens have moved on to rap repost this if you are one of the 8% that listen to real music


Rock IN Peace Darrell Lance Abbott \m/
#13
Quote by acidhammerdrums
i lost you when you said something about dimebag dying being the last of the horrible things to happen in your life. i hope your family knows that you've already decided that their deaths will be meaningless compared to a guitarist you didn't know.

so he died and some people don't care.... get on with your ****.


Ha Your Funny
Not What I Ment

The Worst thing to Happen To "Me" Up to this date has been That Very thing. Yes I didn't Know Him But I Idolized for What He Stood For The things He did... The Things I stood for.
Member #2 of the dean owners club, PM g1asseye to join.

92% of teens have moved on to rap repost this if you are one of the 8% that listen to real music


Rock IN Peace Darrell Lance Abbott \m/
#14
i only read the beginning of it, and i didnt need to read more. basically hes calling metalheads the same thng we call rappers. and hes calling u dirty, ignorant, dumb people. i cant agree with that, but this article could be written in much the same way about the Notorious BIG or Tupac or several other rappers who were killed. In some ways i agree with him, but this is a mass generalization. not all metalheads are dumb, lowlife people. I might only know one person who is a real metalhead, the others are blown away by Razorbacks and Eruption. They are fanboys. I kno that intelligence is an individual thing, and certain metal bands are very smart people when it comes to making music, much smarter than Pop artists. But the morbid, sometimes nasty culture that surrounds some of the music is quite revolting to many. He sees it at about the same level that adults and elders see the "emo/scene" culture. they see it as self-destructive and radical. And in some ways, i agree. Dimebag was so idolized among this community, that its hard not to see why people didnt like him. As a famous person, ur gonna have those people who are anti-fans. This guy was one of them. So the next time u start sending hate mail to an emo, or diss some1's hero or idol, remember this guy, and how he talked about ur lifestyle and ur idol. Yes, i am being very opinionated. And im kinda on a venting rant. so plz dont flame me b/c i dont share ur opinion.
#16
The point of this thread:
Quote by fukyu1980
LOL ! muther fuker i was gonna say that LOL!
#17
He is calling a mass of the people in the United Staes barbaric. He's just a babbling elitist that has been put in a bad mood that his classical composers aren't as recognized today as there were yesterday.He states that Dimebag Darrel was less evolved than Bach and Handel but,he forgets that things might just change a little over a couple of centuries. The general populance of the world does not live to the same standards that people did back in the Renaissance. Also,he just uses his rather large vocabulary just so what he thinks are the barbarians can't understand what he is saying. Sadly,he failed at that for this barbarian,and apparently many other "barbarians" understood the article. That understanding is that,he is just bashing a genre of music he does not like and is brutally criticizing and stereotyping the listeners. I doubt he has even given the music a fair listen. He is merely an overconservative ignoramus.
Quote by Jackal58
If I was Santa you'd all get shit for Christmas.
#21
Holy necrobump batman!
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#23
Quote by MightyAri
It was seeneyj.He should be permabanned


Why won't you die already?
You want some more seeneyj hate? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

You're all a bunch of f*cking slaves! - Jim Morrison

UG Awards
1st: Biggest Ego
1st: Most Likely To Become Famous
1st: Most Pretentious User
#27
Quote by MightyAri
Because I don't want to yet


Well hurry up.
You want some more seeneyj hate? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

You're all a bunch of f*cking slaves! - Jim Morrison

UG Awards
1st: Biggest Ego
1st: Most Likely To Become Famous
1st: Most Pretentious User
#29
Quote by MightyAri


You want some more seeneyj hate? WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

You're all a bunch of f*cking slaves! - Jim Morrison

UG Awards
1st: Biggest Ego
1st: Most Likely To Become Famous
1st: Most Pretentious User
#30
Stop your bitchin' ladies, and stop bumping this old as feck thread
Quote by slapsymcdougal
I'm cockblocked regularly by my appearance and personality.