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#1
hallo.
today i was thinking of changing the pickups of my Schecter C1 classic
Which should I put in the bridge position....
im playing heavey rock and metal
i heard the nailbomb being a very good one, what do you think?
#2
three letters... EMG !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yep. Go with EMGs
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#4
The Nailbomb is excellent (assuming you're talking about the Bareknuckles), my mate has some in her Schecter.

From what I've experienced, it's better than the EMG's, although I really haven't played them enough.
#5
well, ive never played those pickups before, but for me at least, and the sound i like, you cant beat EMGs. but if you get some, have them professionally installed, because actives are a b*tch to put in a guitar that is passive....
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#6
ok thanks dudes....but i heard, that cleans dont sound too good with the emg's...what do you think?
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#7
Why would you want to change them?! It already has SDs in it.
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#8
i thought they were "Duncan disighned" or something.

Go for EMG 81/85's
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time for my, EMG? gtfo. post

You can get better pickups than EMG's for metal and rock, look around, they are not the answer to every pickup question, in fact, they are, imo, one of the worst pickup brands to exist, they sound so sterile and lifeless, wow, they drive the amp hard, so does an overdrive. get some nice passives, and then consider getting an overdrive if it's not gainy enough for you.

Oh, and if you're playing a solid state amp, EMG's will sound like ass anyway. Even worse ass than usual.
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#11
Emg's are just like overdrive pedals in your guitar with all dials cranked to 10.

If you're one of those "SOWNDS BR00TALZ ROAAAWRH I R TEH DEVILZ ROCKARR" types then EMG's are for you. You're probably used to dick in your ear anyway.

But imho, emgs are WAY over-rated. Driven through the right setup, they're good pickups.

But dimarzios blow em outta the water. I played my uncle's gibson LP with dimarzio's in it, forget what model as it was a couple years ago. But damn that thing sounded sweet, went through a home modded b-52 half stack.
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#12
i play my schecter through an Engl fireball!

and im mostly play the songs from metallica and black sabbath...but the clean parts as well;
#13
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lols <3 mark and his amp posts.

time for my, EMG? gtfo. post

You can get better pickups than EMG's for metal and rock, look around, they are not the answer to every pickup question, in fact, they are, imo, one of the worst pickup brands to exist, they sound so sterile and lifeless, wow, they drive the amp hard, so does an overdrive. get some nice passives, and then consider getting an overdrive if it's not gainy enough for you.

Oh, and if you're playing a solid state amp, EMG's will sound like ass anyway. Even worse ass than usual.

wow, you play your buddy's emgs through his mahogany schecter and his line 6, and youre an expert.
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^that's one hell of an expert mate.


sorry, but im tired of these little snot nosed kids who cant even afford the things commenting on them like theyre the owner of the company. its quite tiring.
#16
^lulz. what if he was a secret sales associate of line6? eh? u never know about modern business.
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^lulz. what if he was a secret sales associate of line6? eh? u never know about modern business.

that gave me the heebie jeebies
#18
lol thaweee.

ur gear mind is complicated. although u hate elitists loving the boutique stuff, u hate people advertising line6. ur down at the middle eh?
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#19
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i play my schecter through an Engl fireball!

and im mostly play the songs from metallica and black sabbath...but the clean parts as well;

I wouldn't go with EMG's personally, you want something a bit more organic for Sabbath-type tones...maybe a Warpig?
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i'd say your best bet is to ask over at bareknuckle and/or ask on the forum, if you do consider going down that route. BKP's are really nice pickups, but you really do want to match them properly to the woods. Many BKP fans have been known to say (on their forum, no less), that X pickup doesn't sound very good in a particular guitar, etc.

of course, it's the same for most if not all pickups.
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#21
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i thought they were "Duncan disighned" or something.

Go for EMG 81/85's

They're real Duncans, a JB and a Jazz to be precise.
Personally I'd go with some higher output passive in the bridge and keep the jazz because its cleans are just so nice.

EDIT: EMG stands for "Ew Muddy Garbage" , they're only good for the most br00tal metal IMO. They're just not versatile (although some will argue this, they haven't won me over).
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#22
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#23
SD Distortion? those pups blew me away after i plugged it through a some half stack amp.
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#24
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sorry, but im tired of these little snot nosed kids who cant even afford the things commenting on them like theyre the owner of the company. its quite tiring.

wow, so all of a sudden, i'm not allowed to have an opinion, sweet. I've played guitars with EMG's active pickups, I've listened to bands who use EMG pickups, and I really hate the tone. It sounds really lifeless to me, I much prefer the dynamics of passive pickups. I was considering EMG's for the ibanez I've been modding, tried them out, and hated them, do I got a set of Dimarzios instead. So I'd really think before disregarding someone's opinion next time.
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#25
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wow, so all of a sudden, i'm not allowed to have an opinion, sweet. I've played guitars with EMG's active pickups, I've listened to bands who use EMG pickups, and I really hate the tone. It sounds really lifeless to me, I much prefer the dynamics of passive pickups. I was considering EMG's for the ibanez I've been modding, tried them out, and hated them, do I got a set of Dimarzios instead. So I'd really think before disregarding someone's opinion next time.

i never said you werent allowed to have an opinion.
i simply said i was tired of stupid opinions.
as far as EMGs dynamics go, they are pretty high up there. coming from a guy whose owned a lot as far as pickups, all the way up to the major "boutique" winds. EMGs give you pretty much exactly what you give them. you pick softly, they clean up, you pick hard, they punch right through. they are extremely dynamic.
if you are referring to the flatter eq curve that they show, i dont consider it sterile. to be quite honest, i think most people who claim to dislike EMGs are lacking in the chops department and just love being covered up by copious amounts of sloppy bass and muddy mids. and i bet you wouldnt have such a biased ear if nobody told you when playing music the guitarists was using EMGS.
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i never said you werent allowed to have an opinion.
i simply said i was tired of stupid opinions.
as far as EMGs dynamics go, they are pretty high up there. coming from a guy whose owned a lot as far as pickups, all the way up to the major "boutique" winds. EMGs give you pretty much exactly what you give them. you pick softly, they clean up, you pick hard, they punch right through. they are extremely dynamic.
if you are referring to the flatter eq curve that they show, i dont consider it sterile. to be quite honest, i think most people who claim to dislike EMGs are lacking in the chops department and just love being covered up by copious amounts of sloppy bass and muddy mids. and i bet you wouldnt have such a biased ear if nobody told you when playing music the guitarists was using EMGS.

I reckon I would, I'm not the noob you make me out to be, I just don't like the EMG's. and I wouldn't say that i cover myself up with sloppy bass and muddy mids either, I'm using Dimarzio: D Activator (bridge), Chopper (middle) and Breed (neck) The D Activator is a very tight cutting pickup, similar with the chopper, but the chopper has far more punchy mids, the breed in the neck would get a little muddy under high gain, but as long as mids aren't on full, then it'd be fine, plus the idea was to use it as a clean pickup anyway. I spent quite a while looking at different pickups, and just found the EMG's lacking in comparison to the Dimarzio's
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#28
Yeah.

I would personally suggest a Duncan Distortion in the Bridge and a Fullshred in the neck. The distortion fixes every problem I've ever had with the JB, makes it thicker and crunchier, but it still sounsd great for soaring leads. The fullshred in the neck will to great for clean tones, and be super clear no matter how much gain you put on it.
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^^ will you two get a room or something


+1

why is it every thread you go into you seem to get into a fight, jermie? I'm not saying your opinion's right or wrong, but you have a very confrontational way of stating said opinion.
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EDIT: EMG stands for "Ew Muddy Garbage" , they're only good for the most br00tal metal IMO. They're just not versatile (although some will argue this, they haven't won me over).


That really is a moronic statement. I have EMG's in a PRS with a 81 in bridge and a 60 in neck. I find them to be very versatile. Crystal clear cleans and powerful overdriven tones, I've played everything from funk to blues to balls out metal with them and they dont disappoint me, and me and my friend between us have around 20 guitars and countless top quality pedals and amps, so we have a lot of guitars to compare them too !

EMG's are crystal clear, which means playing technique is brought into question, and shows up guys who are sloppy, that's what the mud is probably.
#31
Seymour Duncan Jazz Bridge. Trust me, the name is so wrong for that pickup. The sound is HUGE, ariculate and clear and takes heavy gain really well.

I'd either go with that or a Seymour Duncan Invader.
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Seymour Duncan Jazz Bridge. Trust me, the name is so wrong for that pickup. The sound is HUGE, ariculate and clear and takes heavy gain really well.

I'd either go with that or a Seymour Duncan Invader.


I think you made that one up....

...and as for the invader
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i'd say your best bet is to ask over at bareknuckle and/or ask on the forum, if you do consider going down that route. BKP's are really nice pickups, but you really do want to match them properly to the woods. Many BKP fans have been known to say (on their forum, no less), that X pickup doesn't sound very good in a particular guitar, etc.

of course, it's the same for most if not all pickups.


+1

BKP are nice. The nailbomb is a good pickup and is good for heavy music. Because you already (kinda) know what you want, go the BKP forum and ask them if it'll work for your specific needs. If it doesn't then they will tell you of another BKP that will work.
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I have EMG's in a PRS with a 81 in bridge and a 60 in neck. I find them to be very versatile.

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#36
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I think you made that one up....

...and as for the invader


you actually can get a bridge version of the jazz, though I haven't tried it.

the invader is crappy, though.

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+1

BKP are nice. The nailbomb is a good pickup and is good for heavy music. Because you already (kinda) know what you want, go the BKP forum and ask them if it'll work for your specific needs. If it doesn't then they will tell you of another BKP that will work.


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#37
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you actually can get a bridge version of the jazz, though I haven't tried it.

the invader is crappy, though.


Really? Then I stand corrected

Althou I really don't think that's what he meant, I reckon he simply doesn't know what the JB actually stands for
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haha, true.

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#39
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i'd say your best bet is to ask over at bareknuckle and/or ask on the forum, if you do consider going down that route. BKP's are really nice pickups, but you really do want to match them properly to the woods. Many BKP fans have been known to say (on their forum, no less), that X pickup doesn't sound very good in a particular guitar, etc.

of course, it's the same for most if not all pickups.



the guys on the forum told me that there are pickups which would fit my schecter just fine

- nailbomb
- holy diver

did someone make any experience with this two?
and i dont know do i use them in the bridge and the neck position?

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#40
Ok, cool.

Wouldn't hurt to check with them, but bareknuckle make both a neck version and bridge version of those pickups, so if they said just the one, I assume they mean to just get the calibrated set...
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