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So Im looking into my future bass guitar, and lately Ive got psyched about P basses and a bit more about the J's but everyone just seems to use them...
So I remember handling a Japanese Fender Jaguar a year ago and from what I remember I was pretty impressed about it.

So any experience with the jag? Pros and cons? (A con I see in it is the fact that it doesnt feature 24 frets).
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So any experience with the jag? Pros and cons? (A con I see in it is the fact that it doesnt feature 24 frets).


Neither do P and J basses (other than the Jazz 24 I think).
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The controls are quirky but it's nice to have an active/passive bass like the Jag. However, both pickups are only on/off switches (no blend control) and therefore that's a dealbreaker for me.
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oh, i like it. once you get used to the switches, it's a very versitale bass.
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oh, i like it. once you get used to the switches, it's a very versitale bass.


It really looks promising but thx to fitz I understand you cant blend em, which kinda drops the value in it.

So, as an option could I add a neck pickup and change the mechanics so I could blend it? (versatility is important.)
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They're really nice basses, the absence of pickup blending is their achilles heel.
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It is a really nice bass, I tried one recently.
But...*ahem*...no pickup blending? What in God's name are the two thumbwheels on the upper bout for? I could have sworn blind that the forward one controlled the volume of the neck pup, the rearward one controlled the volume of the bridge pup.
I quite clearly remember feeling there was wayyyy too much treble to be locked in a small room with a 150w Hartke, and boosting the neck pickup to prevent further aural bleeding.
Pity to ruin a flawed, if good bass, with a flaw it doesn't have...
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I'm sure though that it would not be impossible to implement a blend control, or even pickup volumes as aposed to on/off.
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It does have a blend control. It's what the two thumbwheels are for. Just like a J-bass. Which irritates me greatly, but I'm not going down that avenue again!

thefitz pwnage in... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's an active bass. Those wheels are the 2-band EQ. Period.

EDIT: WRONG!!!! Your 'dialing in the neck pickup' must have either been upping the bass frequencies on the EQ or lowering the treble.
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Not only have I played it, I have 2 magazine reviews explaining exactly what it does! Hell, one of them has a DIAGRAM!

From the Fender Website:
Controls - Master Volume,
Master Tone,
Preamp Treble Control Wheel,
Preamp Bass Control Wheel,
Preamp On/Off Slide Switch

Pickup Switching - 2-On/Off Slide Switches, One for Each Pickup,
1-Series/Parallel Slide Switch (Operates only when both pickups are on)

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Oh well, it seems my ears have let me down. Perhaps reducing both preamp thumbwheels to zero creates something other than silence. Seems to me the EQ's work very much like a blend... First and last...first and last...
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Oh well, it seems my ears have let me down. Perhaps reducing both preamp thumbwheels to zero creates something other than silence. Seems to me the EQ's work very much like a blend... First and last...first and last...

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i guess i figured the same thing as creepingjesus73. i played one for couple of hours at my local shop, and was very impressed. it had great sound in passive, as well as active, modes. i play my Jazz with the neck p-up just back, from full on(11 o'clock), and my bridge, at 75% on(9 o'clock), most of the time. i use the tone to adjust between bright and dark tones. i had no problem reproducing that sound on the Jag. although i'm not sure how. i was just messing with the knobs, until a found it. lol

i like the Jag, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. it has a great feel, and look.

there are no losers here, just learning. +1 for fitzy, he does his homework.
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The Jag has a funny property with those active knobs - which would explain creepingjesus73's mixup. There's no centre detent for flat EQ. You know why? Off is flat. They're boost-only controls (or, if you prefer, cut only). Strange, eh?
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Surely you could replace the on/off switchs for the pickups with a volume pot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems like it should work, although it may require some rearranging of the controls and modifying of the body.
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So any experience with the jag? Pros and cons? (A con I see in it is the fact that it doesnt feature 24 frets).

do u honestly need 24 frets......
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fitz, must you be so cruel to us who aren't omnipotent?
anyway waters, I'd say go for it. It's a good bass if you like the jazz sound.
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fitz, must you be so cruel to us who aren't omnipotent?
anyway waters, I'd say go for it. It's a good bass if you like the jazz sound.

I was a bit overzealous there, wasn't I?

However, in my opinion, 24 fret bolt-on necks are only really good on dense woods like maple, mahogany, bubinga, etc. On lighter (ash, alder) bodies, especially if they're small, it can really rob the bass of it's thickness and punch. That said, it's a shame the Jag uses a standard 20-fret neck. That 21st fret (the high E) is just so bloody important to me.
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That said, it's a shame the Jag uses a standard 20-fret neck. That 21st fret (the high E) is just so bloody important to me.


+1
i simply cannot do with 20 frets i can make do with 21.... but 24 frets is a big.......help i guess you could call it
i love a full double octave neck

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I have one and I love it... I haven't really tried other basses than the jag and some cheap beginner cort so I can't compare it to anything.

It gets very versatile once you get used to the switches and you can change sound very swiftly or even during a song with them.