#1
When it comes to guitar gear and accessories, I literally have no clue what is the best stuff to buy (pedals/pre-amp/amp/etc). Knowing that I don't have an unlimited source of money and won't be able to buy everything to have a flawless heavy metal setup, what should I spend my money on?

What is the most bang for buck for guitar gear? The best/most essential gear that will really make a difference?

And these are really general questions I know. I just want to know if I should maybe just have a good amp and a pedal...or instead focus on some kind of pre-amp booster that is installed on my guitar...or whatever.

Any suggestions?
#2
A guitar.

I doubt I'm much help, I don't like metal. But from my generalizations:

A guitar equipped with Humbuckers...EMGs or some other hgh output kind.
An amp: Krank, Marshall, Randall, or some other brand that is famous for heavy sounds.
Effects: Distortion/gain boost...I hear the metal muff is nice from the people here that respond to all these types of threads.
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#3
guitar with high output pickups, maybe a floyd rose/locking tremolo for sure
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#5
At the moment I have a 25-watt Crate practice amp...which I know is not very good, but I definitely want to upgrade that. I am about to order an LTD Alexi-600...so the floyd rose is covered. I know the HZ pickup is said to be pretty weak alone, so that's why I was thinking of getting some kind of pre-amp booster installed onto my guitar or like a sweet pedal or something. With all that in mind, do you think that would be a decent setup for metal playing and possibly even some recording? Side note: I do have a pretty good Marshall amp at home that I would use for recording.
#6
If you going to go with EMG's dont get the passive ones because they suck major ass-balls. Get the actives like the 81, 85, 89 and 60.
#7
Hmmm...I have heard that quite a few times. What's your opinion on HZ's with a gain booster or pedal though? I've heard that they sound just as good as Actives (some even like it better), and since the Alexi-600 comes with an HZ, I'd might as well just modify that rather than get an Active EMG replacement because it would probably cost just as much.
#8
amp trumps all. everything else you can go lower end, and still sound great.
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#10
amp first. if there's one thing a metal guitarist needs, it's a great high-gain amp. i'd suggest not getting any pedals and focusing all of your money on a nice amp that gives you as much distortion as you need. pedals should aid your tone, they shouldn't make or break it (and this is coming from a guy who does use a fair few pedals).
#11
Good amp, then guitar. A good guitar generally won't make a cheap amp sound good, but a good amp will make a cheap guitar sound good. As for the HZs, they're the most horrible pickups I've ever used. VERY muddy sounding, either go active with EMGs or nothing at all.
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#12
* electroharmonix metal muff.
* hi-power marshall
* the HZ pup will do you fine with the metal muff, and you got the FR covered
* black leather. lots of it
*hair. lots of it
*fake blood. lots of it

you're in. oh yeah, you'll need some cables.
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#13
A studded strap and spiked BC Rich/Jackson.
Duh.

Everyone and their mum knows that.

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#15
w.e you do dont get the alexi sig first...get an amp first....it will make a bigger diffrence than the guitar will, like i could play a strat through a mesa and get some good metal tones..you get the point? and EMGs dont usually go well on a ss amp anyways
#16
If you're using EMG actives, use 'em through a tube amp. The preamp section of it is designed to push a tube amp into overdrive.

If you want passives, go for some Seymour Duncans, or if you can afford spending like $300 for a set of them, a Bare Knuckle Nailbomb or Warpig.
#17
the metal muff will react almost the same either way. it's got a volume knob, so really you will end up with just a little bit more bite in your tone with the 81s. the distortion wont change all that much. all active pickups are really are a bult-in preamp. it's the same as lowering the impedence on your amp's input jack. the difference isn't THAT huge. people with passives will just have to turn their volume up a wee bit. trust me, it's not worth the effort. the HZ pups will do you fine if you got a metal muff.
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#18
EMGs sound better through a tube amp, true, but they still sound good through SS amps. I use mine on both all the time and can still get good tones from both. The HZs might be fine for getting a metal sound out of them, but the dynamics of a good pickup just aren't there in the HZs. Chords and notes turn to mud and come out thin on those things. I'd much rather have Duncan Designed pickups over EMG HZs, there's simply nothing about the HZs I enjoyed.

Buy a *good* amp instead of a guitar first, something you don't need to use a pedal to get what you want out of it and you'll be much more satisfied with your tone in the end than if you were to go with your current amp and a metal muff. The Muff is a good pedal, but is no substitute for a good amp.
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#19
Well I just need a new guitar anyway because the guitar I'm on right now is a Gibson SG Custom, which is a good guitar but not very suited to my metal style (lack of 24 frets and floyd).

By the way, what's an SS amp and how do I know what kind of amp I have?
#21
I know I'm going to sound like a broken record here (er, scratched CD?), so I'll make it short. If you've heard any of these, you'd know why I'm recommending them. From most-expensive to least expensive:

$1,000-$4,000 USD: An incredibly high-gain, tube-amp head and cabinet or combo.
$510 USD: Engl E530 dual-12AX7 tube preamp.
$200 USD: Damage Control Solid Metal dual-12AX7 tube pedal.

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P.S. I haven't heard one yet, but I have high hopes for the new Crate all-tube V33H head. It's only $400 USD. Pair it up with a decent 2x12 cabinet, and you're good to go (I hope)!
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Quote by fixationdarknes
When it comes to guitar gear and accessories, I literally have no clue what is the best stuff to buy (pedals/pre-amp/amp/etc). Knowing that I don't have an unlimited source of money and won't be able to buy everything to have a flawless heavy metal setup, what should I spend my money on?

What is the most bang for buck for guitar gear? The best/most essential gear that will really make a difference?

And these are really general questions I know. I just want to know if I should maybe just have a good amp and a pedal...or instead focus on some kind of pre-amp booster that is installed on my guitar...or whatever.

Any suggestions?



Most essential part of a metal rig - good amp. Then comes guitar. Then comes things like boost and EQ pedal


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amp trumps all. everything else you can go lower end, and still sound great.



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#23
Check out the Engl demos online at the Rock Solid Amps site. They sound AWESOME!
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#24

Best guitars for metal : Jackson - Esp - Bcrich
Best tunings for metal : Standard - Drop D
Best effects for metal : MXR fullbore metal - Line 6 uber metal
Best strings for metal : ernie ball - dadario
Best amps for metal : Marshall - Line 6 - Laney
Best picks for metal : Jim dunlop
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Quote by hosein.hm.7

Best guitars for metal : Jackson - Esp - Bcrich
Best tunings for metal : Standard - Drop D
Best effects for metal : MXR fullbore metal - Line 6 uber metal
Best strings for metal : ernie ball - dadario
Best amps for metal : Marshall - Line 6 - Laney
Best picks for metal : Jim dunlop

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Quote by hosein.hm.7

Best guitars for metal : Jackson - Esp - Bcrich
Best tunings for metal : Standard - Drop D
Best effects for metal : MXR fullbore metal - Line 6 uber metal
Best strings for metal : ernie ball - dadario
Best amps for metal : Marshall - Line 6 - Laney
Best picks for metal : Jim dunlop

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Serious question, why do some threads get archived, and some don't? Seemingly completely arbitrarily.

I think every thread should get archived after 2 years.
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