#1
New at all this....

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I am confused about my amp settings.


I think the problem is that my electric guitar.....does not sound electric. When I have overdrive OFF it just sounds like an acoustic on a speaker.

I want a little bit of electric twang but I am not sure how to set everything up.


I have an IBANEZ GRX-20 and a 15W Fender Frontman amp.
#2
You need to turn that overdrive up... that's what makes your electric sound like an electric
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#4
1.put ur guitar on the bridge pick up
2.put the bass on ur amp to 0
3.turn teh mid to 5 ish
4. treble to 10

that should give you some twanginess

EDIT: ^thats when your on the clean channel
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#5
You probably should switch it to the channel labeled "Overdrive" or "Distortion" and turn the drive up.
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#7
Check that the volume on your actual guitar is turned all the way up.
#8
That's because you're playing with the overdrive off. That's what that does. It's called playing "clean."
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#9
Okay I understand the overdrive on/off thing.

It makes things fuzzy....right.

Nevertheless electric guitars have a distinctive sound without overdrive, or am I completely wrong?


I tried setting the treble up and bass down, and turning up the volume.

Definite improvement....thanks....

Any more hints welcome.
#11
I got these amp settings:

Volume 5
Overdrive 10
Master 4
Mid 5
Treble 5
Bass 5

Guitar knobs:

Volume: 10
Switch on treble and the other knob on 5

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#12
an electric guitar is going to sound like a normal electric guitar if you dont have overdrive or distortion on. if you unplug your guitar and just strum. and then plug in and strum with over drive off, it will sound the same lol. and you cant get a twangyness really unless you have a telecaster which is what they r known for
#13
Hmmmm........

All very helpful information.

I guess my expectations are a bit different from reality, or perhaps Im not hearing songs correctly after they have been synthesized and such.


The sound Im thinking of is similar to the intro to Metallica's Sandman. (just the very beginning intro...not the rest of the song)
After relistening to it maybe what I am thinking of is reverb giving it an echo-like quality.

Ideas?


One last question.

On the guitar itself is a TONE knob.

How is that used in general?
#14
The tone knob cuts the treble; the closer to zero the less treble in your sound, that makes your guitar song more rounded with less attack than with it all the way up.
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Hmmmm........

All very helpful information.

I guess my expectations are a bit different from reality, or perhaps Im not hearing songs correctly after they have been synthesized and such.


The sound Im thinking of is similar to the intro to Metallica's Sandman. (just the very beginning intro...not the rest of the song)
After relistening to it maybe what I am thinking of is reverb giving it an echo-like quality.

Ideas?



I looked up your amp and from what I read, it is only good for practicing at home at low volumes. About 92% of the way a guitar sounds is related to the amp. You're using what's called a solid-state amp, which is best for everything except guitars. Most if not all guitarist who want distortion use tube amps, and if you want your guitar to sound like Metallica, you'll have to buy the amps they use (pickups also have an effect, but the amps more so). If you want a really good tube amp it'll probably cost around $1000 (not cheap). But anyway, the best way to learn about this stuff is to look around, read tons of articles, and ask questions (you're on the right track). Here's a good UG article to start you off and make you're brain hurt: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149114

Rock on, dude. :]
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I looked up your amp and from what I read, it is only good for practicing at home at low volumes. About 92% of the way a guitar sounds is related to the amp. You're using what's called a solid-state amp, which is best for everything except guitars. Most if not all guitarist who want distortion use tube amps, and if you want your guitar to sound like Metallica, you'll have to buy the amps they use (pickups also have an effect, but the amps more so). If you want a really good tube amp it'll probably cost around $1000 (not cheap). But anyway, the best way to learn about this stuff is to look around, read tons of articles, and ask questions (you're on the right track). Here's a good UG article to start you off and make you're brain hurt: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149114

Rock on, dude. :]

Yes but you can still buy a cheap amp with amp simulations on and they'll pretty much do the job until you feel you can afford the real thing. Also, try out some overdrive and distortion pedals too.
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Hmmmm........

All very helpful information.

I guess my expectations are a bit different from reality, or perhaps Im not hearing songs correctly after they have been synthesized and such.


The sound Im thinking of is similar to the intro to Metallica's Sandman. (just the very beginning intro...not the rest of the song)
After relistening to it maybe what I am thinking of is reverb giving it an echo-like quality.

Ideas?


One last question.

On the guitar itself is a TONE knob.

How is that used in general?


the reason the intro to sandman sounds so good is because they use mesa boogie amps and ESP and gibson guitars with EMG pickups.

all gear which you dont have and will have to pay at least £3000-4000 for, that tone cannot be achieved with your amp.
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#18
for your first few weeks or so id play with the overdrive off
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#19
Very helpful all of you, thanks.

I do understand that my equipment is rather cheap at present, but its just to learn on.


I researched another song that better describes the sound Im looking for.

The intro riff to Sweet Child of Mine.

Now I know Im not going to sound like SLash....duh....but his guitar sounds less like a guitar string and more like a screechy electric tone.

Thats what I meant by an 'electric sound'
#20
Very slight overdrive, neck pickup.
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#21
If you are just starting, I'd look into scales and practice those. Also look into chords as well. Chromatics would also be a good place to start building finger strength and dexterity.

A good place to start with scales is the Pentatonic. You can see the Pentatonic Minor in A at this link. Change the scale and key with the combo boxes and click "Get".

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php?qqq=5&scch=A&scchnam=Pentatonic+Minor&get2=Get

Hope this helps you

Chris
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If you are just starting, I'd look into scales and practice those. Also look into chords as well. Chromatics would also be a good place to start building finger strength and dexterity.

A good place to start with scales is the Pentatonic. You can see the Pentatonic Minor in A at this link. Change the scale and key with the combo boxes and click "Get".

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php?qqq=5&scch=A&scchnam=Pentatonic+Minor&get2=Get

Hope this helps you

Chris



Great link.

Im actually already working on those exact scales, and am already noticing some improvement, although the stretch to fret 8 is a bit much for my pinky at this stage.


I wasnt implying Im trying to learn these famous solos yet, but merely citing them as examples of the tone of note I was looking for.
#23
A good place to look for settings of famous stars (as in Treble, Middle, Bass, Gain/Drive) is the ultimate settings thread stickied at the top of the guitar gear and accessories sub -forum on this site.

Edit: Here's the link
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