#1
my bass teacher told me that the diminished/half diminished symbols are not used anymore (the circle and the circle with a line through it). is this true? apparently now we use something like: Cmi7(b5)

i need to get a better signature.
#2
i seen them used in jazz band but no where else. i guess its just whats familiar.
#3
I've seen the circle used more often for dominants. The circle is smaller, but I guess it got too confusing.

I prefer the second way of notating it cause it makes it easier for me to construct the chord on the fly.
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#4
Both notations are used. Although I see _dim7 and _-7b5 more often than the circles.
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#5
Sorry to hijack your thread but what's different in a half diminished chord? Is it something simple like a major chord with a flattened fifth?

PS.) I've seen Co and Cdim mainly.

Although surprisingly not C-, because I sometimes see C+ instead of Caug a lot.
#6
half diminished appears among the regular chords you get from the major scale
(you can build it out of the locrian mode)
it has a regular minor 7th
1 b3 b5 b7


a (fully) diminished chord appears on the seventh note of the harmonic minor
it had a diminished seventh (which is enharmonic to a major 6th...but thats not the same thing)
1 b3 b5 bb7
#7
I rarely see m7b5, dim/dim7 or maj7 written.

All the fakebooks, theory books and sheets I've ever used all have ø, °/°7 and Δ respectively. The only time I see m7b5/-7b5 and dim/dim7 is on UG, and other music sites.
#8
Quote by BrianApocalypse
Sorry to hijack your thread but what's different in a half diminished chord? Is it something simple like a major chord with a flattened fifth?

PS.) I've seen Co and Cdim mainly.

Although surprisingly not C-, because I sometimes see C+ instead of Caug a lot.


Bizarrely enough, 20 minutes ago I found my first ever chord chart with a C-.

Which is pretty weird cause the major chords are notated not as +'s, but as _Maj's.
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#9
Quote by Johnljones7443
I rarely see m7b5, dim/dim7 or maj7 written.

All the fakebooks, theory books and sheets I've ever used all have ø, °/°7 and Δ respectively. The only time I see m7b5/-7b5 and dim/dim7 is on UG, and other music sites.



In the fifth edition real book it's the symbols, in the sixth it's -7b5, and maj7 normally uses ° for diminished chords.
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#10
Quote by MATTTHEMOP
my bass teacher told me that the diminished/half diminished symbols are not used anymore (the circle and the circle with a line through it). is this true? apparently now we use something like: Cmi7(b5)


Forget that. I'd rather use the traditional symbols.
#11
Quote by Vittu0666
Forget that. I'd rather use the traditional symbols.


You might rather use the symbols but you cant just ignore the other notation. You still need to know that they are basically the same thing.
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#12
Quote by Kutanmoogle
Bizarrely enough, 20 minutes ago I found my first ever chord chart with a C-.

Which is pretty weird cause the major chords are notated not as +'s, but as _Maj's.



im pretty sure + is augmented, but im not sure........
#14
thats funny, my aural skills teach said the same things two weeks ago..

said that in the "music biz" theyre starting to diminish.

....we have to laugh cause hes a dick if we dont
#15
Quote by madmaestro
im pretty sure + is augmented, but im not sure........


Ahhhh yeah I didn't even think of that.

Foolish me.
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