#3
yeah, I've seen them on musiciansfriend.com. From what they look like, it just looks like they removed the inlays, but I could be wrong. But anyway, yeah, there are such things as "fretless" guitars.
#4
They work just like a fretless bass. I saw a competition of amazing jazz guitarists. The one that won played a fretless guitar. Might have been a strat, but I'm not sure.
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ya its called a viola

Viola is the portuguese (or spanish i think so) for acoustic/classis guitar, so no
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Viola is the portuguese (or spanish i think so) for acoustic/classis guitar, so no

no again. a viola is a bigger version of a violin, with a different range of notes, but its still played the same as a violin.
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#12
i am on the way to converting an old strat to a fretless guitar right now, i havent put the wood filler in the frets yet, but i got overexcited and tried it without it, it plays awesome and i cant wait to finish it.
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#13
Check out Vigier, they make the best fretless guitars if you ask me; metal fingerboard (meaning virtually no wear), carbon instead of a truss rod and their all made by hand in France.

Mine's probably coming in about 5 months and I can't wait
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#14
what exactly is the advantage of a fretless guitar or a fretless bass for that matter?
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#15
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what exactly is the advantage of a fretless guitar or a fretless bass for that matter?


The fretless guitar offers an incredible range of applications and a form of tonal freedom that can be used to create beautiful melodies, but it also invites certain players to express themselves in a form of musical diarrea worse than bebop jazz.


Really, it's all about intonation, taste and moderation. Also, going from a regular guitar, no matter how proficient you are, to a fretless is very difficult.

Some guitarists tend to think that they've made the transition before they've actually made it, resulting in people like Ed Degenaro who may be a great player, but has major intonation issues when playing fretless.
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#16
sure there are fretless guitars..............but i think it will sound like sh*t played with a pick, if you have ever played a fretless bass you know what i mean.
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sure there are fretless guitars..............but i think it will sound like sh*t played with a pick, if you have ever played a fretless bass you know what i mean.


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The fretless guitar offers an incredible range of applications and a form of tonal freedom that can be used to create beautiful melodies, but it also invites certain players to express themselves in a form of musical diarrea worse than bebop jazz.




While I understand that you made that in jest, that was uncalled for.
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While I understand that you made that in jest, that was uncalled for.


Oh come on.

I understand everyone should be able to expres themselves, especially musically, but then again, it's also possible to lighten up a little.

Whether you like it or not, bebop jazz, or some forms of fretless guitar music are pretty unique.

Of course this is great, since it ads to musical diversity, but on the other hand it doesn't make them more accessible.

I respect these musicians a lot, seeing as they're doing something they love, regardless of whether it's going to land them a lot of fans, fame or paychecks.

These are people performing solely for their love of music.

But, like I said, this doesn't mean you can't make the occasional joke about them.
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#20
Of course. I even saw a video of this one guy playing a guitar with a switch, where he could hit the switch to turn it into a fretless, and hit the switch again to bring the frets back.

Edit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD7RPhgZC6Y

Got it. The user has a bunch of other videos, including basses.
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Of course. I even say a video of this one guy playing a guitar with a switch, where he could hit the switch to turn it into a fretless, and hit the switch again to bring the frets back.


Yup.

It's available for guitar and bass. I'm just wondering how maintenance heavy it would be and any form of moving parts on a guitar are obviously the parts most at risk of breaking or wearing out
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#22
Theres a photo in the metal hammer magazine that i have that shows Scott Ian from anthrax playing a guitar that has frets up to the 12 fret but from there on its all fretless.. i cant find that guitar anywhere but i think its cool
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Theres a photo in the metal hammer magazine that i have that shows Scott Ian from anthrax playing a guitar that has frets up to the 12 fret but from there on its all fretless.. i cant find that guitar anywhere but i think its cool



I've looked around for that picture for ages after someone mentioned it to me, but I've never managed to find it. It sounds quite cool though; it would allow you to play normal riffs, whilst still having a lot of fretless possibilities.
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#24
Another cool thing is the inlay on the 11th fret (By 11th fret i mean the big fretless part above the 12 fret) is just a giant "NOT!". i guess il try and find it later.
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#25
I would think that fretless guitars would be great for slide too.
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^huh, dunno about that. on one hand, you'd be able to get a lot closer to the fretboard with a fretless, but on the other hand you lose your fret markers. and that's damn important in most forms of slide, right?

Still, always thought it'd be cool to have a fretless guitar....
#27
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Whether you like it or not, bebop jazz, or some forms of fretless guitar music are pretty unique.



I'm light ... I just consider bebop to be very safe and established, that's all. Maybe it was breaking ground, shocking audiences and getting trashed in downbeat (#11s? They must be out of their mind ...) in the 1940s, but nowadays the sounds are nothing unusual. Perhaps you should be making fun of avant-garde or free jazz. Or, even more ridiculous, Anthony Braxton, who spent far to much time hanging out with John Cage and ended up creating "ghost trance", where 12 performers quietly perform completely different sets at the same time over a steady beat.


Either way, fretless offers you the chance to imitate the articulation of a horn player

And that's what guitarists really care about now isn't it.
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ya its called a viola



BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Also: The Vigier Surfretter is probably the best fretless guitar on the market:

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BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.


Also: The Vigier Surfretter is probably the best fretless guitar on the market:

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Yup, they're pretty damn nice.

Also, the one you posted is the Supra, but they also have the even better looking Special:

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