#1
Since I figured out that im probably going to have to spend thousands to get the versatility that i am seeking, I was wondering if there are any distortion pedals out there that sound natural. And by natural I mean the opposite of boss metal zone, which is horribly thin, awful highs, and just a plain terrible pedal overall.
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#4
They're on the pricey side, but I'd say an Electro Harmonix English Muff'n. It's got a 12AX7 in it so it really delivers the goods in natural sounding tube overdrive. And I couldn't agree more with your brief MT-2 review.
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Fulltone ocd maybe? Unless you want high gain distortion. What amp do you have?


Well i was considering all of my options on buying amps, and if i were to run a high gain distortion pedal it would probably be through a peavey classic or something with nice cleans and good low-mid gain overdrive
#6
If u have a tube amp, look at the Rocktron Austin Gold OD. Alot of actual tube-driven ODs should be good, but are rather expensive.
#8
I'm looking for something of that can reach higher gains. Not necessarily death metal or anything like that, but at least Zach Wylde range
#9
A good cheap pedal that gets reasonably natural-sounding distortion is the Danelectro Daddy-O. Its really punchy, has a wide frequency range and fairly heavy. Slightly brittle on the top but can be mellowed considerably with EQ. It has a 3 band EQ and volume on the pedal. Sounds much better with a tube amp, but also not to bad with ss. Truthfully sounds much better than the Metalzone, not nearly as brittle or buzzy.
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They're on the pricey side, but I'd say an Electro Harmonix English Muff'n. It's got a 12AX7 in it so it really delivers the goods in natural sounding tube overdrive. And I couldn't agree more with your brief MT-2 review.

Tube pedals are a rip off. there isnt something that a tube pedal can do better than a analog pedal so theres no reason to get a tube pedal.
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A good cheap pedal that gets reasonably natural-sounding distortion is the Danelectro Daddy-O. Its really punchy, has a wide frequency range and fairly heavy. Slightly brittle on the top but can be mellowed considerably with EQ. It has a 3 band EQ and volume on the pedal. Sounds much better with a tube amp, but also not to bad with ss. Truthfully sounds much better than the Metalzone, not nearly as brittle or buzzy.


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HBE big D is pretty good. versatile too. tell him, hankey!
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HBE big D is pretty good. versatile too. tell him, hankey!


The Big D is pretty good and versatile.
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mi audio crunchbox if you're looking for cranked jcm800 tones in a stompbox. nowhere near as good as the real thing, of course, but sounds really really good. can get some nice bluesy tones and mid-gain crunch, as well.
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i like the rocktron silver dragon personally
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a dirt box sounds natural when its made natural by a warm tube amp. they pretty much all sound pretty sh*t through a modeller or a regular transistor amp
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The Big D is pretty good and versatile.


thank you.

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A good cheap pedal that gets reasonably natural-sounding distortion is the Danelectro Daddy-O. Its really punchy, has a wide frequency range and fairly heavy. Slightly brittle on the top but can be mellowed considerably with EQ. It has a 3 band EQ and volume on the pedal. Sounds much better with a tube amp, but also not to bad with ss. Truthfully sounds much better than the Metalzone, not nearly as brittle or buzzy.


+1

The controls allow it to be extremely versatile. I've compared it to the Metalzone, another Boss, and a few others I can't quite remember the names off, but the Daddy-O always sounds better to me.

I couple it with the Cool Cat Chorus pedal, and it's just WOW! And even better, both pedals would probably run you $100USD together, if not less.
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Since I figured out that im probably going to have to spend thousands to get the versatility that i am seeking, I was wondering if there are any distortion pedals out there that sound natural. And by natural I mean the opposite of boss metal zone, which is horribly thin, awful highs, and just a plain terrible pedal overall.


None? Now you'll use your thin screechy Metal Zone whether you like it or not...


FYI I lurv my Keeley Metal Zone
#22
Lol sorry, its fun to play around with, but when I try to achieve a usable tone, its nearly impossible. Maybe you know something i don't
#23
It's very sensitive. But possible to tweak it just right. Also i've never used the standard MT-2.
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All below are dual-12AX7, tube-based pedals/preamps:

Damage Control Solid Metal $200 USD.
Damage Control Demonizer (adds compressor and DI-output) $300 USD.
Engl E530 preamp (rack-mount preamp) $510 USD.

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#26
Wow i saw the Daddy O and Cool Cat Chorus pedals, i love the look and they takes me back to a decade i was never in lol im looking for nice vintage chorus and overdrive, these look the part how do you think they would go with my new vox tube amp?
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Wow i saw the Daddy O and Cool Cat Chorus pedals, i love the look and they takes me back to a decade i was never in lol im looking for nice vintage chorus and overdrive, these look the part how do you think they would go with my new vox tube amp?


I find they work much better on a tube amp than on SS (which I'm sure most would agree with any pedal really).

They work beautifully with my current Peavy VK100, and new Epiphone Valve Standard. Unfortunately, I haven't tried them out on a Vox as I don't know anyone that owns one. I can't imagine they'd sound worse as I'm sure your Vox is a nice amp on it's own.
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HBE big D is pretty good. versatile too. tell him, hankey!


Anyways; yes, it's great. It can do distortion, overdrive, dirty boost, clean boost, and fuzz. It does loads of different versions of most of them too. Best OD/dist pedal I've ever played. It beats my Tube Screamer in every way (why do I still even have that thing?).

I can't say anything about how it sounds with a SS amp, because I haven't used it with one.
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Anyways; yes, it's great. It can do distortion, overdrive, dirty boost, clean boost, and fuzz. It does loads of different versions of most of them too. Best OD/dist pedal I've ever played. It beats my Tube Screamer in every way (why do I still even have that thing?).

I can't say anything about how it sounds with a SS amp, because I haven't used it with one.


that is a very good point; nor have I.

I was certainly trying it through a clean tube amp, but even so, that could definitely affect things.

very versatile pedal, basically: unless you need uber-br00tal death metalz, it'll do virtually anything.

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Tube pedals are a rip off. there isnt something that a tube pedal can do better than a analog pedal so theres no reason to get a tube pedal.


I agree, I've tried several tube pedals, and the only good ones were the reverb/delay pedals. The best overdrive/boost pedals (I think) are the TubeScreamer, Boss OD-1 and the Dunlop Wylde OD. Great pedals, also the Marshall Guvnor is great for fat tone, but not rythms.
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I actually think my Muff'n sounds great, but I've never used it on a tube amp. Apparently they don't sound very nice with tube amps though. I tried the HBE once, and I liked it, but I only got to use it for about 5 minutes.
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....okay,for a more practical idea I'd suggest looking at Carl Martin pedals. The Rock Drive and PlexiTone are particularly nice. Also, check out the Crowther Audio Hotcake, which I think is the finest drive pedal around.
#35
my english muff'n sounds great w/ my blues jr. it makes it sound very plexi-ish. also, it sounds very natural.
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