#1
After doing a lot of reading, I've come to the conclusion that the Yamaha Pacifica series is my best bet as my first guitar, if only because for it's reputation as low priced, bang for buck, yet versatile guitar.

Now it comes down to which Pacifica, and I have a couple of questions on that:

1. According to 'The Ultimate Electric Guitar Info Sticky', Agathis should be avoided, so that potentially rules out the 012 series. But is that the only difference between the 012 and 112, and is it worth £30? I've read people mentioning that they are quite similar.

2. The 112 has been updated to the 112V and retails for about £10 more for. Here are the marketing claims:

The Yamaha Pacifica 112V has now been updated with a short scratch plate allowing the single coil pickups to be mounted on the scratch plate while the humbucker reamins mounted on the body. Other improvements include a new block-saddle tremolo, chrome knobs, and 3-ply scratch plate. Most interesting are the new custom-wound Alnico V magneted single-coil and humbucker pickups, voiced for modern and vintage tones standard fitted with push/pull coil taps for increased tonal flexibility".

From a newbie point of view, I have no idea what that means. What I am weary of though, is that the 112 has over 10 years of reputation, and I am not sure if the 'V' series managed to 'break' anything. Is this something that occasionally happens with guitars?

3. Is it worth buying new? The ones on Ebay go for some £50 less (30% savings).

4. How do I know whether I will need to get it professionally setup?

5. This is of relative little importance, but how would you rank the different colours available amongst the 112V?

Thanks for taking the time of reading this
Last edited by AxBattler at Oct 25, 2007,
#2
my first electric guitar was a yamaha pacifica 012, it was like £110 and it was an amazing buy, every new guitar deserves a profesional set up at the shop. colour is your own preference, dont ask people to tell you because its annoying.

I can only recomend or share advice on the pacifica 012, and i can say its awesome as a beginner guitar and i say you go for it and buy one !
#3
1. The 112 is definitely worth the money.
2. Yeah, sure, go for it. The Pickups are probably an improvement on the 112V, the 112's aren't amazing, but they're ok
3. Yes and no. I got my pacifica used, no regrets. It can be risky, but you can also get real bargains.
4. Take it to a store, just in case. They'll tell you if it needs setting up, and give you pointers, so you know how do basic set-ups on your guitar.
5. Can't be bothered to check, sorry.
#4
Thanks for the replies. I've just got one final dilemma before I pull the trigger regarding to point #2: I was just about to buy a 112V for £142.50 ($292), when I found a 112 for £110 ($226). Both are new, I can't tell if one dealer is better than the other. Aesthetically, I do prefer the old violin burst in the 112V to the myst green in the 112 (only colour available at that price - looks very much like black with a hint of green to me), but I won't put much weight in that. So it comes down to whether the "New improved tremolo, die-cast chrome tuners, and redesigned smaller pickguard" is worth £32 ($66).
#5
I would go for the 112v. I have a 112MX and it's an awesome guitar for the money, the 112v is an improvement on it.
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#6
Quote by AxBattler
Thanks for the replies. I've just got one final dilemma before I pull the trigger regarding to point #2: I was just about to buy a 112V for £142.50 ($292), when I found a 112 for £110 ($226). Both are new, I can't tell if one dealer is better than the other. Aesthetically, I do prefer the old violin burst in the 112V to the myst green in the 112 (only colour available at that price - looks very much like black with a hint of green to me), but I won't put much weight in that. So it comes down to whether the "New improved tremolo, die-cast chrome tuners, and redesigned smaller pickguard" is worth £32 ($66).


And new pickups. And yes it is worth it.
#7
so any idea bout the 412V, i'm plannig to buy one as my first elec guitar ? what's the dif. between Alder and Agathis........... plz tell me !!!!
#8
Basically, Alder is much higher quality - agathis is a cheapo wood which has similar properties to mahogany and is used as a substitute in budget guitars.
It's wise to always buy the guitar with the highest quality wood in your price range, even if the hardware isn't as good. After all, you can always upgrade later on...

And yeah, the 412V really is a fantastic beginner guitar - they play and sound as good as many guitars costing three times as much!
#10
I let a 412 slip on Ebay for £151. Didn't have enough time to find out more about it. Oh well.

Okay, I know my last post was supposed to be the last question, but I still would like to know about something else: there seem to be quite a lot of people who absolutely love Ibanez. Yet my impression is that the Pacifica series is more often recommended as first guitars. Is there a reason behind that? Are Ibanez more 'specialised', or are the Ibanez I see in the same price range as the Pacifica 112 not quite as good (GRG-120DX, SA 120)? To be honest, I find all the various series under the Ibanez brand to be highly confusing.

Thanks.
#11
the 112 was my first guitar, and its fantastic, the cleans are great with the single coils, you can get great rich rock tones from the humbucker and it never goes out of tune. Its very versatile as well. I say go for it!
#12
i remember when i used go to a saturday music school they had a pacifica, green, pretty good for a low budget guitar, kicked my squiers ass.
#13
For a budget/starter guitar the yam pacificas are great, probably the best around for starters as they are versatile and play alot better than guitars in the same price range (such as the squire strat)
#16
I suspect the reason that many people play Ibanez guitars is to do with the fact it's a "cooler" brand, and that many of their favourite artists play much more expensive guitars. Granted, many Ibanez guitars are awesome, but I like Yamahas a lot, too.
#17
Look up Cort G250's they are the BEST value for money and I seriously love my Pacifica

http://www.thomann.de/gb/cort_g250_2ts.htm

Probaly not the cheapest place remember look around. Brilliant trem and pickups on this.

No idea about the 112V version try harmony central for reviews and such.
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#18
I started on the 012, it's beautiful. If you want to save £30 I don't think you'd really notice a difference between it and the 112.
#19
well i have played my friends peavey 158 rage amp with his Yamaha RGX220DZ, its sounds great to me, i am impresses, is it really dat cheap the amp ? other suggestion of cheap amps well be fine.............. i can' t afford an expensive amp, no matter how good the quallity.............. so i decided to get a Yamaha 412V and a Peavey 158 rage...........
#20
i went to the shop today, the Gigmaker is only RM1200, while the pacifica 412V, the guitar alone cost RM1858.........