#1
Marshall Valvestate 8080. I don't know much about it but i saw an ad that said for sale $175. Is this amp better then Marshall Mg's or worse? i need some opinions. Will it be good for my style? i play classic rock and some blues. I also use a fender strat just in case your wondering.
#2
valve-state.

valve + solid state.

similar to modern AVTs.

= not too great.
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#3
Judging from the name of the amp it sounds like a hybrid. Which means instead of having all tubes, it has normally a single tube in the pre amp. Normally hybrids aren't that good, so most people say.
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#6
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just about I---I <- that much better than an MG. Very similar to an AVT.

oh. could a tube replacement help just alittle?
#7
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oh. could a tube replacement help just alittle?


no

Get a real amp.
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#9
mediocre. they're a bit too warm to my taste. dont like the gain channel either.
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#10
Peavey Classics is better than the hot rods.
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#11
i thought peavey's were solid state. Are they really good for a classic rock / blues tones? i want something similar to eric clapton's tone from the 70's like layla and such.
#12
not all peaveys are solid state. actually, clapton's tone from layla will be great with a peavey classic 30. maybe a fender blues jr, and some crate palomino V16.

i like live layla tones myself though.
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#13
Guys, they're good amps. Its an older AVT and sounds pretty good. Nice and crunchy, with a fairly fullsound. you can crank them pretty high as well. I bet none of you have ever played one. I looked at one a long while ago for $375. $175 is a pretty good price. If you don't like it you can always flip it
#14
Quote by hamish5178
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wanker.


like the last guy said i reckon none of you have played that amp, so you dont know what its like. just cos it doesnt have tubes, that doesnt make the amp junk.

To clarify I havent played that amp either but it could be brilliant for all you naysayers know. stop going by what others have said!!
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#15
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wanker.


like the last guy said i reckon none of you have played that amp, so you dont know what its like. just cos it doesnt have tubes, that doesnt make the amp junk.

To clarify I havent played that amp either but it could be brilliant for all you naysayers know. stop going by what others have said!!

there's a used one at my local guitar center. i went to check it out, and it was next to a used JMP. what do u think happened???

i plugged into the JMP first, and then plugged it into the valvestate, i left after a minute.
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#16
The peavey classic 30/50's are all tube.
If you like clapton's older tones, it'd be good for you.
I have yet to find a blues/rock tone that it can't do.
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#17
^peavey classic 30s and 50s have a tweedish OD. thats why i like it.
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#18
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there's a used one at my local guitar center. i went to check it out, and it was next to a used JMP. what do u think happened???

i plugged into the JMP first, and then plugged it into the valvestate, i left after a minute.



thats because those are two COMPLETELY different classes of amplifier.

obviously threadstarters amp isnt THE best in the world but i assume for the money he paid it could easily hold its own with other amps of that price.

thats the point i was making.
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#19
^yea i know lol. i wasn't really fond of that particular JMP though.
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#21
Quote by buzz
thats because those are two COMPLETELY different classes of amplifier.

obviously threadstarters amp isnt THE best in the world but i assume for the money he paid it could easily hold its own with other amps of that price.

thats the point i was making.


+1. Geez, which is better, Budget amp or JMP? You tell me.
#22
Quote by CJRocker
+1. Geez, which is better, Budget amp or JMP? You tell me.

i do NOT know man...

i should play side by side with the fender 65 DSP or sumtin next to it next time.
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#23
Quote by ECistheBest
i do NOT know man...

i should play side by side with the fender 65 DSP or sumtin next to it next time.


Btw, I made that before I caught your last post. ITs all cool
#25
Where in Illinois are you? Because, I bought a FM 212R, just because "It was only $200". I hated it, and returned it for a cheaper amp: Epi VJ, and like it way more and I would have saved more if I just got t3h toob3s in the first place.
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Where in Illinois are you? Because, I bought a FM 212R, just because "It was only $200". I hated it, and returned it for a cheaper amp: Epi VJ, and like it way more and I would have saved more if I just got t3h toob3s in the first place.

I live around the chicago suburbs.
#27
I've tried the 8080 (a friend of mine HAD one). Just didn't like the tone (and I haven't even been playing that long). I've got an Epiphone Valve Standard that I think sounds a hell of a lot better than it, and new it cost me $300USD.

What's the most you're willing to spend on an amp right now?
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#28
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wanker.


Agreed

And threadstarter, yeah, Hot Rods are good for Classic Rock. Depends which one you're looking at though. A second hand Blues/Pro Jr would be good I think.
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#29
If you were a hard rock player looking for a gigging amp on the cheap, I'd probably tell you that the Valvestate'd be ok for you. Just ok. The biggest problem with them is that they're over-priced, something that doesn't carry over once they're used.

But for your styles, a Peavey Classic 30/50, Fender Hot Rod, Traynor YCV 40/50, etc., would all suit you MUCH better.

Listen to this sage advice:

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Bite the bullet on a tube combo of at least 30W, and you'll have the last amp you'll ever need in your possession. That Valvestate? You'd probably be looking to replace it about as quickly as Cort.

Used Classic 30's and Hot Rods regularly sell for under $400. Watch your local Craig's List. In Chicago, I'm sure it's bustling.
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#30
If its the same one as my highschool music teacher has, its a good amp. The distortion sounds awesome but could use a bit more bass, and the clean is good as well, and its pretty loud.
#31
for the music he wants to play i dont think its his amp. if you play a little harder rock (i.e. punk), its perfect. its not bad of an amp, that price is killer. it'll hold its own with a full band.

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#32
^to be fair most amps can cover punk... punk is about the energy you put into the playing more than the tone...

but i tried one at my local music go round and i thought it decent... but if you can afford a blues deluxe/hot rod whatever yousaid... id look into that peavy or an orange tt... those are both great for blues rock in my opinion and in your budget if your going after the 600 dollar fenders
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