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#1
Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmteem, Joe Satriani, Buckethead, etc....
These guitarist sounds so fake and artificial. Sure they may know **** load of theory but it doesn't appear as they posses natural musical talent. And they play like 200 notes a minute, so they can mask how bad they play. Also these musicians seems to over emphasize on the guitar, rather playing as a cohesive band. The bass and drums on their songs never stand out, and having no vocals makes their songs empty and soul less. Also I can't stand Vai overuse of the whammy bar, and he exagerates his face everytime he does a solo.
Last edited by lpmarshall at Oct 27, 2007,
#2
/runs away from thread
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#3
yes
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#5
prepare for a flaming

buckethead is one of the most original guitarists in the world
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#6
Lies

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Vai > You

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#7
people like what they like,
I'm sure if someone made a thread bashing your favorite artist/band you wouldn't be very happy.
keep your opinions to yourself.
#8
Well do <b>you</b> know a ****load of theory?

And playing 200 notes a minute, while making it sound good takes a hell of a lot of talent.
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#10
Clearly somebody has not listened to "For the Love of God", or "Midnight", or "Jordan", do so, then try and convince people that they possess no talent.
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#12
i hate all of them except yngwie malmsteen. if you could even know a little bit of what he knew then you would actually understand how complicated his **** is. dont get me wrong he's not like dimebag or slash because they play with soul and style and carres and not just speed. but yea ygnwie joe satrianni and steve vai are all good. **** BUCKET HEAD. i really hate bucket head. jordan sucks
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#13
...that doesn't even make any sense.

Those guitarists don't play fast so they can 'mask how bad they play', in fact it's a great example of how well they can play.

Natural musical talent is a point. Some (like Yngwie) don't have it, they just practice like hell and reap the rewards. Good on them for it.

Seriously though, guys like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are INCREDIBLE musicians. They have incredible knowledge of music as a whole, theoretical, historical and styles from all over the world. They can write music for any situation, and focusing it on the guitar is the point, because it's GUITAR MUSIC.

However, claiming that guys like those can't write music that doesn't focus only on guitar is a load of crap. Listen to the second disc of Steve Vai's 'Sound Theories', and entirely orchestral album composed by Vai, not a guitar in sight.
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#14
Ehm...they're solo artists? Isn't that why all the music's emphasized on guitar? And none of them play bad or make mistakes...if you think they have no soul go and listen to Buckethead's "I Love My Parents" and try to keep on arguing.

Shut up n00b.

Oh, and i do agree that Vai uses a bit too much whammy.
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#16
i agree for the most part, but i think they do have talent, they just need to channel it better into a more constructive pieces so they can garner more respect. i love satch though
#17
You say that these guys only play fast. Obviously you are wrong and stupid. You say that they play badly. I bet you can't play their most dfficult songs. And Satch possesses tons of talent, he was better than his guitar teacher after a year. There is no way your arguement has any weight. Though you can be entitled to say that you think that these players sound like wankery to you, but to say that they are bad players is an utterly ignorant statement.
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#18
Quote by evening_crow
Ehm...they're solo artists?


This is the important thing.

Does anybody criticise George Michael because his songs don't have particularly original drums, or bass, or guitars? No, it's about the vocals and vocal melodies because he's a SOLO VOCALIST.
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#19
How do you exaggerate your face? Is it like one of those circus mirrors that makes you look short and fat or tall and thin?
#20
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#21
well... i'm not a fan of vai, but i respect his skills and he is a hell of a guitarist.
i like satriani more though.
#22
BUCKET HEAD SUCKS. i would own bucket head.
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#23
You say they play bad? Who do you consider a good guitar player?
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#24
OI SHREDDERS

Not neccesarily these guys right, but next time you're watching a video on youtube of someone shredding really fast, look away from the video and just LISTEN.

Sometimes it just sounds like absolute incoherrent ****e.

But then again, respect to them for being able to play that fast, but it doesn't neccesarily mean good music
#25
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BUCKET HEAD SUCKS. i would own bucket head.

No way. He'd get you with the nunchucks.
#26
You're one of those guys that has never really listened to them and says that you dislike them because you can't play as well as they do. Trust me, we see your ilk all the time here.

*reported* for pointless-ness.

Edit - And 200 notes per minute? That's not really that fast, definitely not shredder speeds.
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#27
dude...you are going to get so flamed that not even the california firefighters will be able to ths beast of a flame out.
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#28
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**** BUCKET HEAD. i really hate bucket head. jordan sucks
i love people who base their opinions of buckethead on one song (that song being Jordan)

try actually listening to someone before saying "**** ____"
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#29
Dude...

I don't really like any of those guitarists (not my kind of music), but I sure as hell appreciate their talent.
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#30
dd00d i fink u iz well jeloose coz they r quicker dan u m8 get a lyf nd start livin a lil
#31
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i hate all of them except yngwie malmsteen. if you could even know a little bit of what he knew then you would actually understand how complicated his **** is. dont get me wrong he's not like dimebag or slash because they play with soul and style and carres and not just speed. but yea ygnwie joe satrianni and steve vai are all good. **** BUCKET HEAD. i really hate bucket head. jordan sucks



jesus ****ing christ. 3 out of 4 times someone mentions buckethead they also mention jordan. whatthe**** is up with people and that song?

****ing guitar hero asswipes.

listen to some real buckethead.
#32
You've clearly fallen on your head several times during your first years.

It's one thing that the music of those artists doesn't do anything for you, but to say that they have no talent or that they play badly...

You kids crack me up.
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#33
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No way. He'd get you with the nunchucks.


lol perhaps he would. i dont like bucket head he doesnt really suck. but he's way way weay overrated. i saw him play that song jordan and was highly unimpressed. all the other guitarists listed are gods though and i could never compare myself to them
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#34
Blehh, just because he doesnt like an musician you guys do, doesnt mean you have to flame him like its mother****ing forest fires in california, he has an opinion, though he didnt put up any valid points, its still an opinion and i agree with him to some degree, vais good tho.
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#36
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...that doesn't even make any sense.

Those guitarists don't play fast so they can 'mask how bad they play', in fact it's a great example of how well they can play.

Natural musical talent is a point. Some (like Yngwie) don't have it, they just practice like hell and reap the rewards. Good on them for it.

Seriously though, guys like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are INCREDIBLE musicians. They have incredible knowledge of music as a whole, theoretical, historical and styles from all over the world. They can write music for any situation, and focusing it on the guitar is the point, because it's GUITAR MUSIC.

However, claiming that guys like those can't write music that doesn't focus only on guitar is a load of crap. Listen to the second disc of Steve Vai's 'Sound Theories', and entirely orchestral album composed by Vai, not a guitar in sight.


Amen
#37
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prepare for a flaming

buckethead is one of the most original guitarists in the world

agreed.
Yeah it appears the thread starter hasn't heard much of buckethead's material.
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#38
i dont like them just because they dont interest me. but i cant deny the fact that they are amazing guitarist and some of the most original of our time.
#39
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jesus ****ing christ. 3 out of 4 times someone mentions buckethead they also mention jordan. whatthe**** is up with people and that song?

****ing guitar hero asswipes.

listen to some real buckethead.

ive never played guitar hero dude. but yea point taken. ive never really listened to bucket head's full set or anything
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1967 fenderbandmaster halfstack
schecter c1 hollow body
Pedals:
original crybaby wah
flutter pedal
boss mt-2
#40
i don't hate them, but there not my music at all. however, i do acknowledge that they have a lot of talent. but i do like buckethead.
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