#1
Okay, this is what I want.

I plan to totally remove my neck pick-up in an RG120. What I want to happen is when I switch the pick-up selector to the neck pick-up, I want no sound. No hum, nothing, essentially a killswitch, but I didn't see anything on that in the Killswitch thread. The other thing is, when I have it in the middle position, I was wondering if I could get a single coil sound, since it would be using 1 coil from each humbucker, but since there wouldn't be a neck pick-up...one coil. Anyway, I have posted this before, but some guy said to use a push-pull pot, crap like that, but I don't think I need it. I simply want to remove my neck pick-up, and then connect those wires to something so that when they're active they don't hum. I just don't know how to do that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Last edited by MoonBoots432 at Oct 28, 2007,
#2
Just unsolder one of the wires. My SG needs rewiring because the bridge pup is in but not wired up.


Neck pup's are the best one why would you get rid of it.
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#3
Won't it feedback though? That makes sense to me. And no...my neck pick-up is crap.
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#4
If u have 3 pickups, either get a killswitch or take out the middle one and wire the 5-way so the middle position is the neck p/u and the last position is nothing. and then, if u have a 4-conductor HB (which i doubt if u have stock pickups), then wire a coil tap in position 4.
#5
Get a better one then?


Well if you don't wire it in how can it buzz man? There is no signal going anywhere because your switch says use neck, and the guitar has nothing there, so nothing will happen. Trust me, my guitar is the same.
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#6
yer, just take off the wires to that neck pup, and leave the pickup switch as it is,
not 100% on this but it should work

But a killswitch would be ideal, in case you want ur neck pickup at some point.
#7
I don't, it's absolute crap, that may sound dumb, like I don't know what I am talking about, but it's horrible and I've never used it. Sometimes I think it's a good idea and I try it...no...always bad. But I guess I'll just disconnect then. I always figured it would make noise from the air, or touching something else.
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#8
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But I guess I'll just disconnect then. I always figured it would make noise from the air, or touching something else.


Tape them off, just in case they do touch something
#9
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I don't, it's absolute crap, that may sound dumb, like I don't know what I am talking about, but it's horrible and I've never used it. Sometimes I think it's a good idea and I try it...no...always bad. But I guess I'll just disconnect then. I always figured it would make noise from the air, or touching something else.



80% of rock and metal uses it.


Yeah, it's crap alright.
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#10
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80% of rock and metal uses it.


Yeah, it's crap alright.

quit with the bashing, I never use my neck pickup either.. Its too muddy and toneless for me.

anyways, theoretically the single coil should work., but idk... try it

good luck
#11
neck pic ups are the best but i regret buying sh4 jb for my bridge since it is the same as the last pic up i took out
#12
Okay...so this is what happened. I cut out the neck pup and wrapped electrical tape around it, then taped that to the body of the guitar in the pick-up hole. Now, the freaking weird part. I played through my amp on the bridge pick-up setting. Then, I switch it to neck position, so it should have killed, which it did...but then I strummed some chords just to make sure...and it came out as clean. Clean tone, on my distortion channel (I use a Vox AD100VT). So I was like, okay, that's weird, but it is a decent clean tone. Then I switch it to middle position, which should be just one coil from my bridge humbucker. It sounded almost exactly like my full-on bridge pup, it might not have even been different. So I was like, holy crap, what is up. Then I switch to a my clean channel. In the neck position, there is NO noise. None, except from the amp, which is minimal. In the bridge position, it is my same old crappy clean tone from the bridge pup. So I am weirded out. Then I switch back to distortion, because I figured, okay, I can at least get a decent clean tone there, but it wasn't very loud, so I turned the watts to 100. Squealing, just straight up squealing. What the hell is the deal? Is my guitar wired incorrectly somehow? What is up?
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#13
I need to bump this...I am kinda of ****ed now.
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#14
Ok, so here's the wiring diagram from http://ibanez.com/support/wiringdiagrams.aspx

From your description, I'm assuming you cut the "cold" and "hot" wires from your neck pickup at the switch and common ground point. Now when you have the switch in the bridge only position, the entire bridge pickup is selected. However, the way it's wired, when you select the middle position, the entire bridge pickup is still selected, because the middle position and the bridge position on the switch (second and third terminal from the right on diagram) are connected together. In order to select only one coil in the middle position, you have to do a couple things.

Disconnect the bridge pickup hot from the switch terminals. Make sure the terminals that were connected together (2nd and 3rd from right side) aren't connected to each other anymore. Now, connect the bridge pickup hot to the third terminal from the right in the diagram. Connect the bridge pickup tap wire, which wasn't originally connected, to the second terminal from the right-most terminal. I would also disconnect the two center terminals of the switch from each other, and connect the wire going to the volume pot to the 4th terminal from the right. This might help you as well: http://www.guitarnucleus.com/wiring.html

What you should have afterward is bridge position=bridge humbucking, center position=bridge single coil(tapped), neck position=no connection. The neck position shouldn't connect a signal to your amp. However, from your description, you might be getting some signal bleed to your amp, and if you're on overdrive, there's enough gain to amplify whatever tiny signals are there, probably due to crappy shielding. That's all I can think of for your getting a clean tone in the neck position with nothing connected. What you could try is connecting a wire from the right-most terminal of the switch to the shield connection(pot body). That should connect your guitar's output to ground(lowest potential) when you have the switch in the neck position.

Good luck.


#15
edit: Wow, someone much more knowledgeable than I posted before I could finish.

The selector switch is not always so cut-and-dry. I once checked a guitar's switch by tapping a coin on the pickup's pole pieces and found that in the neck position, there was just a little bit of the middle and an almost imperceptible amount of the bridge. Vice versa for the bridge position and in the middle there was just a little of both the neck and bridge each.

That clean tone on the overdriven channel is probably a result of the very low output of the other two pickups being enough to create sound but not enough to overdrive the preamp. The squealing at 100 watts is probably just feedback from the wires left floating around picking up noise, but I really don't know about that one.

As for the situation with the middle position, the switch probably just puts both pickups on at the same time. When you bought your guitar, was there anything that expressly said that only one coil of each pickup would be on? Or did you just assume? The circuit probably just has both humbuckers on, maybe with resistors placed appropriately to prevent the output from being excessively high. Your middle switch probably now just has your bridge pickup on it.
#16
As far as tapping the pickups with different switch positions, that's a good way of finding out
I would say that the reason tapping on the other pickups is heard is that the body of the guitar is resonating while tapping, and the selected pickup vibrates slightly, and your amp amplifies it. According to the RG120's diagram, that's right... the middle position originally connects the two humbuckers in parallel. My GRX720 is wired like that.

And the squealing, yeah, it's probably due to insufficient shielding, and/or caused by oscillation of the preamp circuit.
#17
Thanks a lot.
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