#1
But I picked one up anyway. Cruddy Affinity P Bass, but it was free. Can any of you lovely bassists in here offer me some pointers on the guitar-to-bass adaptation? Thicker strings, no pick, I believe, but hell if I know. I'll admit my ignorance. Practice excercises? Good tabs to start with?

And, just to clarify, I will be fine plugging into my 5 watt Valve Junior head with a 2x12" cab, right? No real danger of blowing out the speakers or frying transformers?

I did consider putting this in the basics forum, but frankly, I'd rather ret responses from dedicated bassists.

Thanks in advance for the help, mates.
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And, just to clarify, I will be fine plugging into my 5 watt Valve Junior head with a 2x12" cab, right? No real danger of blowing out the speakers or frying transformers?


Don't run a bass through a guitar amp- the speakers won't be able to handle the frequencies and you'll run a strong chance of blowing the speakers
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you do realise that bass specific equipment exists for a reason, right? It's not just so bassists have something to call their own it does actually have a purpose.
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#5
bass into a guitar head into bass speakers is fine, but guitar speakers are likely to blow.

you're just starting out with bass, do what beginner guitarists do and buy a cheap little practice amp.

I'm no bass expert myself but the Warwick Blue 15 sounded decent for the ridiculously low price (like £75 or around that ($150) ) but by no means great, or there the ashdown after 8
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#6
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But I picked one up anyway. Cruddy Affinity P Bass, but it was free. Can any of you lovely bassists in here offer me some pointers on the guitar-to-bass adaptation? Thicker strings, no pick,



why no pick? there aren't any rules saying, thou must play finger style, and worship jaco p.
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#7
You know, you can use a pick if it feels more comfortable to you. I've started playing with a pick alot lately, and I'm still as much of a bassist as I ever was.

Also, you do need to use a bass amp, or at least a bass cab. Maybe you could plug into your computer for the time being, or something.
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#8
^Yea, the title was kinda a joke...

Alright, I'll not play though the guitar cab. Is there any sort of cheap digital moddler especially for bass (like a digitech RP) that one could plug into for just practice? And on that subject, anyone selling one? I'm massivly short funded right now, I just emptied my bucket of change to go to a show last night...college life, eigh? So an amp is out for now.

Alright, I'll try with and without a pick.

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you do realise that bass specific equipment exists for a reason, right? It's not just so bassists have something to call their own it does actually have a purpose.

I know that bass amps exist, and that I should use one, but I can barely scrape 2 figures together, much less 3, for new gear. And I thought the guitar forum was elitist! (Kidding! )
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I know that bass amps exist, and that I should use one, but I can barely scrape 2 figures together, much less 3, for new gear. And I thought the guitar forum was elitist! (Kidding! )


Nah, our toys just cost more.

Depending on your budget, Peavey, Ibanez and Crate all have fairly decent practice amps for under 60 USD. It just may mean forgoing pizza and beer for a few months, but its worth it if you want to get a decent sound.
#11
I saw the thread title and got ready to hurt you, as someone who started out on gutiar.

But all is good now.

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#12
yawwwwwwwwwwwwn...............slow day in the bass forum. Oh well yea, who cares what you play before you pick up the bass. Play whatever you want
#13
Mmm. For the reccord, I don't plan on playing bass anywhere but in my apartment. Ever. I might track some stuff to Garageband with it, or let someone borrow it, but I don't want a bass "rig" right now, just a way to practice.
#14
A caveat here, I have never used one of these, but Dean makes a bass version of their "stack in a box" headphone amps for bass. If you don't want a full rig and just something to practice with, it may be a good option.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Bass-in-a-Box-Bass-Headphone-Amp?sku=184700
#17
You should learn fingerstyle, well it really not might not matter as much cuz you play guitar and pick all the time anyways. I started from scratch and started with pick,and fingerstyle came real hard to me, somethings I still have trouble with somethings fingerstyle...Yeah but learn fingerstyle, cuz to be a good all around player know many techniques is good
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I know that bass amps exist, and that I should use one, but I can barely scrape 2 figures together, much less 3, for new gear. And I thought the guitar forum was elitist! (Kidding! )

You called?

Is this Valve Junior a true tube amp (i.e. tube power amp)? If so, back in the day, there were no bass/guitar amps. It was just 1 kind of amp, and it was all-tube. Tubes should not bother the speakers, as the wattage is typically much lower (and the output perceivably higher) than solid state (meaning your speakers have plenty of headroom).
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u crazy? the Epi T-bird is a fine starter bass. I have one of em on my wall.


Interesting, Bad Tone, Bad Fret Access, Poor Construction, and at the same price as the much superior Squier or Ibanez starter basses, what's not to love?
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#21
So...a bassist shouldn't play guitar...

......

Can a guitarist play bass?
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#22
i really like the look of a T-bird, but I really should get an amp first. And even that's a bit far off.

^^I do want to learn fingerstyle. I'm not really sure what to do...I've been trying to play guitar scales, on the bass...does one rest one's thumb on the pickup for stability? I think I've see that done...
#23
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i really like the look of a T-bird, but I really should get an amp first. And even that's a bit far off.

^^I do want to learn fingerstyle. I'm not really sure what to do...I've been trying to play guitar scales, on the bass...does one rest one's thumb on the pickup for stability? I think I've see that done...


there's no such thing as "guitar scales." They're just scales, no matter what you're playing them on.

And yes, you can anchor your thumb on the pup.
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Don't run a bass through a guitar amp- the speakers won't be able to handle the frequencies and you'll run a strong chance of blowing the speakers

BAAD idea, no sound, UNLESS you blow the speakers in which case you get a very loud sound that might just give you a heart attack 0_o put my low B sting trough my ****ty little guitar amp and nearly deafened myself
#25
Actually, I've had decent results playing bass through the exact same setup he was going too. It sounds like ass on the low notes, but 5 watts isn't going to blow the speakers at any frequency.
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#26
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Nah, our toys just cost more.

Depending on your budget, Peavey, Ibanez and Crate all have fairly decent practice amps for under 60 USD. It just may mean forgoing pizza and beer for a few months, but its worth it if you want to get a decent sound.


I have a Peavey MAX 126 Bass Practice Combo it does pretty well. It's like 70/60 bucks off of guitarcenter.com.
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#27
DeliriumBassist, I was just refering to scales as they apply to the guitar, ie, the familier shapes and patterns I know from practicing them on the guitar.

So last night, I read the lessons on slapping, and spend an hour or so practicing that. Bloody fun, right there.
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DeliriumBassist, I was just refering to scales as they apply to the guitar, ie, the familier shapes and patterns I know from practicing them on the guitar.

So last night, I read the lessons on slapping, and spend an hour or so practicing that. Bloody fun, right there.


Well, they ARE exactly the same
#29
Please whatever you do, don't treat scales as just shapes, learn the formulae and what notes you actually play. I t may seem like hard work, but it's a lot more useful in the long run.
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^Thanks, I need a kick in the pants like that everynow and then to get out my bloody charts and memorize roots and 3rds and 5ths.

^^Aye, as I'm realizing. Sucker's like a 4 string guitar, but for a REAL MAN. I played for about half an hour, then picked up my guitar, and it felt like a frekin' toy.
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Interesting, Bad Tone, Bad Fret Access, Poor Construction, and at the same price as the much superior Squier or Ibanez starter basses, what's not to love?


I like it, just needs a bit of after purchase work
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#33
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But I picked one up anyway. Cruddy Affinity P Bass, but it was free. Can any of you lovely bassists in here offer me some pointers on the guitar-to-bass adaptation? Thicker strings, no pick, I believe, but hell if I know. I'll admit my ignorance. Practice excercises? Good tabs to start with?

And, just to clarify, I will be fine plugging into my 5 watt Valve Junior head with a 2x12" cab, right? No real danger of blowing out the speakers or frying transformers?

I did consider putting this in the basics forum, but frankly, I'd rather ret responses from dedicated bassists.

Thanks in advance for the help, mates.



The Epi valve junior can handle the bass, though your speakers might not be able to however.

For adjusting, practice chromatic scales in the first position (first 4 frets) start at slow tempos if you're having difficulty, and slowly build up your speed. Use a metronome if you have one. If not, use an online one.
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#34
Most multi-effect proceccors let you run a headphone from the out-put. So you can put your bass into the input and let it go from there.

Or, you could buy a cheap guitar amp at a local pawn shop (assuming they don't have a cheap bass amp) with a headphone jack, go from there. If the guitar amp is a steal (and I've seen them for $30 or less around here) you probably wouldn't have much to lose from playing it without headphones
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get a Spector and be done with it ^_^
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