#1
Hey dudes, I currently live in the UK, but I really want to attend an American University. Unfortunately, fees for out of state residents to UCLA (my preference) are massive! So i'm thinking of marrying a Californian in order to gain citizenship, thereby reducing these fees by 2/3rds!

So... A good idea? Or dangerous

Cheers dudes,

Ben
#2
danger i'd say.

how much are the fees compared to over here?
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#3
Well, if all goes well, UCLA is a great school. You'll enjoy it very much.
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#4
would be awesome if you can get a hottie. but you might go to a **** you in the ass prison
#5
Expect to pay a lot for a school like UCLA... if you can even get in. Not insulting your intelligence, just most average people can't. I'm assuming you're pretty smart though.
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Why don't you go to college in England? Not like there's bad education there, and should be a lot cheaper.
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#8
UCLA is like 95% instate, and they get a huge discount.

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#9
I'm predicted ABB (A levels)... Though realistically, I hope to achieve AAB. I've heard that UCLA is very fond of students with wide ranging extra curricular interests... And that their SAT asks are not too great, definitely within my grasp!
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I really want to attend an American University.


Why????

I mean, is it worth going to all the trouble, really?
#11
I thought the fee's only got cheaper if you lived in state? Im a US citizen in the UK and most college tuitions wer about $30000, i think ill just go to uni in the UK and do an exchange program for a year
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#12
Out of state tuition is tough to avoid. Marrying a citizen might work but she might screw you out of everything you own too. I don't know what exactly is required to become a citizen but if you can and then you can prove financial independence you can be declared a resident of California.
#13
I think that we, as UGers, would help each other out. So I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you.

I have a cousin that lives in California. I'll set everything up; just come on down here, your wedding will already be in place and all that, and all that you need to do is say "I do." Sound good?

Oh, the only little problem is that my cousin's male. But I don't think that'll be a big deal, right?
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#14
Wait til the election to decide if you want to become an American.

If Giuliani wins, stay over there.
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PRE-EMTIVE STRIKE!!

Why????

I mean, is it worth going to all the trouble, really?

No kidding. Unless, that is, you want to have plenty of options to change your focus, because American universities let you change your major like all the time.

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#16
Thanks for the advice guys! Vermintide, I love the idea of being able to study two unrelated subjects, not possible in England. In addition, Los Angeles is one of the most happening cities in terms of music... Great climate also... I forgot to mention that UCLA has an excellent reputation!
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Quote by jimi_hendrix_2
Hey dudes, I currently live in the UK, but I really want to attend an American University. Unfortunately, fees for out of state residents to UCLA (my preference) are massive! So i'm thinking of marrying a Californian in order to gain citizenship, thereby reducing these fees by 2/3rds!

So... A good idea? Or dangerous

Cheers dudes,

Ben


I don't think its that easy to become a citizen, I think there are more hoops to run through. (but then again, since there isn't a large influx of illegal English immigrants swimming across the pond, it shouldn't impossible)
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Why????

I mean, is it worth going to all the trouble, really?


I agree, the universities here are as good if not better. I mean, you can hardly compare UCLA to the likes of Oxford or Cambridge. Harvard or Yale maybe.

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#21
Haha! It would be a straightforward way of saving 10, 000... Oxford and Cambridge (as cities) don't offer the same opportunities to a musician... And music is something I love greater than History, though I intend to study it.
#22
I'd suggest you what we do here.

That is, apply to a whole bunch of schools, and then see who's willing to give you scholarship money. This will work even better if you already know what your major is going to be, so that you can look for scholarships from specific departments as well as the school on the whole.

I, for example, got a scholarship based on test scores from my college, and then another audition-based scholarship from the music department. Half my tuition went up in smoke.
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#23
I believe if you live there for 6 months you are automatically a legal resident, at least that's the way it works here in Florida, can anyone clear this up?
#24
Be really smart and get a scholarship.

Or just don't bankrupt yourself with ridiculous fees and go to a British uni.
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Why????

I mean, is it worth going to all the trouble, really?


The university system in America is insane, so yes, it is worth it lol
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#26
I'm not sure how long it is,but for an example...

Can't you just move to California for lets say, a year, and be legalized as a citizen, and then own property in California,dropping the extra costs?
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#27
you should also know that UCLA is really really hard to get into if you don't live in Cali, (although it might be a little easier for foreign nationals than it is for out of state americans)

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I believe if you live there for 6 months you are automatically a legal resident, at least that's the way it works here in Florida, can anyone clear this up?


that sort of thing usually only applies to US citizens, him being British would mean that he would have to be in the US quite a bit longer.
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#28
Yeah, something like 5 years longer! It's kind of annoying... Because if I stayed in the country for a year longer than I did when I lived in New Jersey, I would have been eligible for dual nationality. Gay!
#29
I think to get into American universities you also need to have done the SATs. You do for Harvard and MIT anyway. Which is a bit awkward and not very foreign-student friendly.
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I think to get into American universities you also need to have done the SATs. You do for Harvard and MIT anyway. Which is a bit awkward and not very foreign-student friendly.

The SATs or the ACTs. Do you not have standardized tests in the UK? The SAT is based on an IQ test, it started when they had the GI bill and they needed some way to test the returning soldiers to see where they should be allowed to go.

Anyway it doesn't test material that you learned in school, so you should be OK, but the questions can be confusing and most US students are prepared for it long before you take it. If you're going to take it, you should get a review book and study so you know what's coming.
#31
Come to Washington State University... its not bad even for out-of-state tuition. Plus, its in beautiful eastern Washington But really if you want cheaper tuition go to a state university, not a private college, cause even if you don't come from that state, its still cheaper than most private colleges. By the way, great choice to go to an american college. Just thought I'd let you know that.
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Yeah, something like 5 years longer! It's kind of annoying... Because if I stayed in the country for a year longer than I did when I lived in New Jersey, I would have been eligible for dual nationality. Gay!


Yeah, but its New Jersey. Worst. Place. Ever.

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The university system in America is insane, so yes, it is worth it lol


It's certainly the best in the world, but it's not very far ahead of the UK at all, especially if you account for the differences in population size. I wouldn't recommend he go. Definitely not worth it.
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