#1
it bothers me that most people judge others strictly based on individual opinions. aren't we taught in school that opinions are neither right or wrong yet we have people who challenge those who has a different opinion then yours to the point where it becomes no longer an intelligent discussion or debate but a savage attempt to convert everyones insight and thought towards yours? kinda like religion...
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ummm.....

true that!?
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it bothers me that most people judge others strictly based on individual opinions. aren't we taught in school that opinions are neither right or wrong yet we have people who challenge those who has a different opinion then yours to the point where it becomes no longer an intelligent discussion or debate but a savage attempt to convert everyones insight and thought towards yours? kinda like religion...


no, at least i wasnt.
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Then how do we judge someone?


we dont we merely accpet them
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Whaaaaat? No more judging?!

#7
if opinions are based on false information, then it becomes disputable, and possibly wrong. also, if you disagree with someone on a matter of opinion, then you disagree. it happens.
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Whaaaaat? No more judging?!



i know, i know. It would be a strange world....and boring
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it bothers me that most people judge others strictly based on individual opinions. aren't we taught in school that opinions are neither right or wrong yet we have people who challenge those who has a different opinion then yours to the point where it becomes no longer an intelligent discussion or debate but a savage attempt to convert everyones insight and thought towards yours? kinda like religion...



What are you talking about? Of course opinions can be right or wrong. If someone thinks the Earth is flat, is his opinion neither right nor wrong?

And the idea that opinions are somehow intrinsically worthy of respect is bullshit. Some people just have stupid misinformed opinions and thus should not reproduce.
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judge people by their actions rather then opinions. for example. if i like blue and you like red. does that make me a bad person? thats different then me being a Crip and you being a blood...actions speak louder then words.
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#12
Well, if you're gonna judge someone, it's better to judge them because of their opinions than because of anything else.
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judge people by their actions rather then opinions. for example. if i like blue and you like red. does that make me a bad person?


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thats different then me being a Crip and you being a blood...actions speak louder then words.


...what?
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What are you talking about? Of course opinions can be right or wrong. If someone thinks the Earth is flat, is his opinion neither right nor wrong?

And the idea that opinions are somehow intrinsically worthy of respect is bullshit. Some people just have stupid misinformed opinions and thus should not reproduce.

true. but thats in the sense of common knowledge. its common knowledge to know that the earth is not flat. thats fact. not opinion. saying that black is better then white. opinion.
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What are you talking about? Of course opinions can be right or wrong. If someone thinks the Earth is flat, is his opinion neither right nor wrong?

And the idea that opinions are somehow intrinsically worthy of respect is bullshit. Some people just have stupid misinformed opinions and thus should not reproduce.

that's not an opinion.... that's stating something you believe to be a fact.
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If opinions aren't right or wrong then why do those words exist?

In my opinion, the sky is green. Would you say that's wrong, or would you just accept it?
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it bothers me that most people judge others strictly based on individual opinions. aren't we taught in school that opinions are neither right or wrong yet we have people who challenge those who has a different opinion then yours to the point where it becomes no longer an intelligent discussion or debate but a savage attempt to convert everyones insight and thought towards yours? kinda like religion...

People choose their opinions, so I think we're perfectly entitled to judge people by them. Opinions CAN BE right or wrong - the opinion that all black people should be kept out of "white" countries can't in any way be right, no matter how well you argue for it. And if you met someone with opinions that you thought were fundamentally wrong, then why shouldn't you be allowed to disagree? Shouldn't you be allowed to think that racists have something fundamentally wrong in their minds, for example? Of course there's savage attempts to convert people to your opinions, but at the way you're going to get people converting to yours as well. It all depends on your way of thinking, and the more you argument - the more you're converted - be it with others or yourself, the more correct your opinion will be.

If you talk a lot to a guy who shows you statistics on how foreigners make the majority of criminals (I'm making this up) and arguments for this, unless you've made up your opinion beforehand, you'll find yourself moving closer to his opinion. If you afterwards meet someone who tells you how horrible it is for us to take advantage of poor countries to make money and then deny them to move to us to get decent jobs, you'll move in the other direction, and so on. The more people you meet, the more arguments you know of, the more balanced your opinion will be. If you find out that the statistics of criminals that was showed to you before wasn't right, then that's one less valid argument and you'll move more towards your second friend's opinion, etc.
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If opinions aren't right or wrong then why do those words exist?

In my opinion, the sky is green. Would you say that's wrong, or would you just accept it?



I would say I'm color-blind.
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Well, if you're gonna judge someone, it's better to judge them because of their opinions than because of anything else.


only to some extent. if you have candidates in a debate and one candidate says. i think the water is dirty. and the other says, we should invest in water cleansing machines. which is better to judge by? the opinion or the idea?
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only to some extent. if you have candidates in a debate and one candidate says. i think the water is dirty. and the other says, we should invest in water cleansing machines. which is better to judge by? the opinion or the idea?


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#24
that's the thing though, there's no such thing as right or wrong only opinions. sure you might think it's "wrong" to kill, but someone who just watched their best friend get shot in combat might think otherwise. right and wrong dont exist, their just what i call "morally relative" words.
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true. but thats in the sense of common knowledge. its common knowledge to know that the earth is not flat. thats fact. not opinion. saying that black is better then white. opinion.


They're all opinions. When you express your personal beliefs about the world you are stating your opinion.

Opinions can refer to aesthetics like what your favorite color or music is, or to facts that you may or may not be aware of, in which case they are right or wrong depending or how much they correspond with those facts.
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that's the thing though, there's no such thing as right or wrong only opinions. sure you might think it's "wrong" to kill, but someone who just watched their best friend get shot in combat might think otherwise. right and wrong dont exist, their just what i call "morally relative" words.



I doubt that guy would like killing though.
#27
the responses in this thread give me hope for the future...there are so many dumb a$$es out there...
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only to some extent. if you have candidates in a debate and one candidate says. i think the water is dirty. and the other says, we should invest in water cleansing machines. which is better to judge by? the opinion or the idea?
They have the same basic opinion, don't they?
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Opinions CAN BE right or wrong - the opinion that all black people should be kept out of "white" countries can't in any way be right, no matter how well you argue for it.


Why can't this be right? The way you worded it sounds unacceptable by our first-world moral standards that are imposed on us, but it is in no way wrong.
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They have the same basic opinion, don't they?


they are based on the same subject but have different meanings. for example

There are 5 ducks on a log. the 5th ducks says,"im gonna jump. yeah i think im gonna jump" how many ducks are on the log now?

EDIT::


Theres still 5 ducks because the 5th duck was only expressing the fact that his opinion is that he should jump. again actions over words.

(probably didnt make any sense...oh well)
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