#1
So I've been playing the guitar (6 string) for a couple of years and I decided I want to try something new. I've decided I might want to try out playing bass guitar. It looks cool, sounds cool, and everyone says it's a lot more fun than regular guitar.

So anyway, I was looking for a Bass+amp together that would be good for starters and will last into the intermediate stage (if I get good enough). My price range is around $500 for the two. I am also quite fond of the epiphone thunderbird body style.

Any suggestions?
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#5
Do not buy a thunderbird, slap yourself for even suggesting it.
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Do not buy a thunderbird, slap yourself for even suggesting it.



Oh god no i would never buy one, i just like that body style.
#7
well if amp size and volume isn't going to be a factor, maybe just get a practice amp that sounds good and put more money into your instument.
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Oh god no i would never buy one, i just like that body style.

Ok, that's alright then.

Some clue as to what style of music you play would be nice. But without that knowledge, I would say go for a Squier Vintage Modified Precision or Jazz bass and look at Ashdown and Laney for amps.

Also can I just point out, there are hundreds of threads made by people in exactly the same situation as you, giving the search bar a chance wouldn't do any harm.
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well if amp size and volume isn't going to be a factor, maybe just get a practice amp that sounds good and put more money into your instument.



yea Ill probably do that. Like spend 350 on the bass and 150 on the amp+accessories.
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If you keep on posting that it's not going to encourage him to get a Precision bass, it's just going to annoy him.
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Do not buy a thunderbird, slap yourself for even suggesting it.


To assist in reading between the lines here....a search on the bass forums will result in a plethora of posts about the countless issues with these basses. Odd body that makes the upper frets inaccessible, bad design / playability, neck dive and weight and high action from the factory.

Yes, they have their fans, and some are quite fond of their Tbirds, and if someone didn't love them Gibson / Epi would have given up on the line decades ago. But if you haven't played one yet--get to a store and do so and make sure the issues above aren't show stoppers for you. And while you're there, try out a bunch of other basses in your price range as well.
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To assist in reading between the lines here....a search on the bass forums will result in a plethora of posts about the countless issues with these basses. Odd body that makes the upper frets inaccessible, bad design / playability, neck dive and weight and high action from the factory.

Thanks for elaborating, I suppose I should have done that in the first place, anyway, is this another $5 to your Urge fund?
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Thanks for elaborating, I suppose I should have done that in the first place, anyway, is this another $5 to your Urge fund?


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In defence of the Thunderbird, I can say that the Epiphone is ****, though what about the real deal Gibson version?
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In defence of the Thunderbird, I can say that the Epiphone is ****, though what about the real deal Gibson version?



Seeing as it's Gibson, Im assuming it's great quality. Also since it's Gibson Im assuming I will have to sell a kidney to afford one.
#18
go with whatever you want to play and what feels best to you dude. Read reviews and research on whatever you decided to buy and just go for it. These dudes that have responded to this are biased as hell.

Oh and by the way, the next person that sees Indie_bassist needs to smack him. How dare you tell someone to smack themselves over liking a bass shape. Loser.
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Oh and by the way, the next person that sees Indie_bassist needs to smack him. How dare you tell someone to smack themselves over liking a bass shape. Loser.

It wasn't purely over the shape, if you'd read my post later on in reply to anarkee, I said that I realised I should have elaborated on why I said he should slap himself for considering the T-Bird. To me (and many other people) they are just generally uncomfortable and poor quality basses, you can get much much better for the price.
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Oh god no i would never buy one, i just like that body style.


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#21
i own a epiphone thunderbird and the sound quality is f**kin incredible, dont doubt something until you've tried...the gibson sounds 100 times better but i cant afford so i got the epiphone and i am never dissapointed consier buyin it its sweet takes a while to adjust to the body style though
#22
my suggestion is get a used jazz or p bass you'd be surprised how worn instruments help. for amps depends on what your gonna use it for, for shows maybe if possible in your price range a gallien krueger or marshall and if for just practice basically anything else. but either way when you buy brand new instruments its too easy to sound good whereas used instruments gives you more of a challenge and also when repairing it you learn more about the actual instrument. thats what i did, started with a lori p bass (off set of fender) and a little lyon amp. i've improved at least ten fold in less then a year and now i have a fender custom jazz and (sadly) a peavey but i'll be getting a gk soon
#23
yeah i must agree that gallien-krueger nearly give away some of the nicest bass tones on the market. I dont see how they can stay open with amps so inexpensive. But it goes to show you, price definitely isnt everything
#24
My first bass was a stagg bass kit costs me 150 in sterling (dunno in dollars!!!) but yeah it served me well until I got my thunderbird!
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Seeing as it's Gibson, Im assuming it's great quality. Also since it's Gibson Im assuming I will have to sell a kidney to afford one.

The only difference is the rigidity. Sound-wise, it's like the difference between a Squier P-Bass and an American P-Bass - it's clearer and deeper, but the overall 'feel' of the tone is still there.

I've never found Epiphone Thunderbirds to be heavy at all. Ever. The Gibsons I've played were heavier - more in line with 'normal' basses.

However, the fret access and neck dive are and always will be there. The neck-thru design makes the bass feel more stable, but you'll run into the exact same problems you'd run into on an Epiphone, except the tone is pleasantly bland instead of offensively bland. However, the financial troubles that come along with a Gibson Thunderbird are another story....

I recently had a gig at the Gibson Showcase Auditorium, and there were dozens of pictures of Gibson endorsees and their instruments. Out of the dozen or so pictures (and dozens of artists), there was ONE Gibson bass in them. One single Thunderbird. They're not popular, even in terms of Gibson instruments. It's kinda sad, really.
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