Poll: Born with or learned?
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Born with it
72 30%
Learned
172 70%
Voters: 244.
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#1
So is musical ability something your born with or is it learned?

of course the instrument has to be learned but is the actually ability something you have to be born with.
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#3
I say learned. When I first starting writing, I was terrible, now I'm slightly better =/
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#4
You cannot be born with musical ability, you can be born with superior mental capacity and hand eye coordination which may be applied to music.
#6
How can you possibly be born with anything aside from your genetic make-up?

It's learned. To say anyone can possibly be born with musical talent is ridiculous.
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#8
things like having a good ear for pitches and manual dexterity are all decided at birth, but you can easily practice and learn shiz like that to any level you want, from any any ability you start with
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#9
Musical ability is learned.

The passion to play music is a personality trait learnt from the environment you grew up in.

My dad loves music, therefore I grew up with it everyday. That's transferred to me
#10
I dunno id say a bit of both

put me in a room with a random instrument ive never played before and id be able to wack out some simple melodies in half an hour. Born with the ability to learn quickly.

on the other hand you have to learn to be goood at music

and experience helps :P

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#11
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Both.

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Agreed. I lack natural ability, which just means I have to work harder at it.
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#12
im naturally a musician, my parents predicted id be a musician when i was little. So for some, its natural. Natural players always seem like they have more enthusiasm towards music
#13
Some people are born with a better perception of pitch and rhythm, and a greater natural ability to express themselves creatively. You'll never meet someone, for example, who studied and practiced until they acquired perfect pitch. You either have it or you don't.

Some people have natural talent, some people have learned skills. Good musicians have both.
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#14
some is probaly natural, like perfect pitch youre born with it. by Musical Ability im assuming that you can make music with nice melodies. Some people are born with the ability to think of catchy melodies.
#15
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im naturally a musician, my parents predicted id be a musician when i was little. So for some, its natural. Natural players always seem like they have more enthusiasm towards music


"Natural players" don't have to work as hard, so I would disagree.

As for "perfect pitch", that can be learned. People take courses on pitch recognition. It is a myth that it requires some divine inception. What do you think ear training is?
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#16
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"Natural players" don't have to work as hard, so I would disagree.

As for "perfect pitch", that can be learned. People take courses on pitch recognition. It is a myth that it requires some divine inception. What do you think ear training is?


I was always told that ear training gives you relative pitch, because my music teacher said that he took a course on that and he said it would give a musician relative pitch while my friend has perfect pitch which he was born with.
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#17
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I dunno id say a bit of both

put me in a room with a random instrument ive never played before and id be able to wack out some simple melodies in half an hour. Born with the ability to learn quickly.

on the other hand you have to learn to be goood at music

and experience helps :P



I'm the same way. It's a combination of both. And there's different genetic things that can be involved too. You could have better dexterity or more creativity or both.
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#18
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You cannot be born with musical ability, you can be born with superior mental capacity and hand eye coordination which may be applied to music.


got it in one. you are born with no natural ability for anything, just ur mental/physical attributes lend themselves to certain tasks better
#19
I have to say born with it, only because I know a couple of people who've been playing guitar for over 6 years, and still suck absolute balls.
#20
its kind of both, like if you have no musical talent whatsoever and you try to play an instrument, of course you will suck. like my uncle, when he was 23 he tried to learn guitar, and after 2 years he could hardly play the rhythm for back in black, and he was also practicing like every day. so, if your born with some musical talent, you have to learn the rest
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#21
both....
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#23
I would have to say no to being born with any musical ability; you can however be born with some amount of talent. Think Jaco. He was ungodly good at bass. He had the natural talent.

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#24
Both. A mate of mine started playing at the same kinda time as me but he's a very musical guy with a musical family and I'm not so he ****s on everything I do and has like perfect ears whereas I'm like tone deaf. But I work hard to force the ability into me so I'm not bad. I think everyone can do it, but the natural ability makes it so much easier to learn and understand.
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#25
I think some people are just naturally good at music. just like some people are naturally good at sports, art, school etc.
#26
Well, I think it's a mix of both. A friend of mine is a drummer, yet he can pick up pretty much every instrument, even if he's never played it before, and play it good enough so that it doesn't sound like he's a complete beginner. Yet he's obviously not as good at those instruments as people who have actually learned them.
#28
Talent: Born with it.
Technique and theory: Learned.
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#29
this is a nature-nurture discussion and cannot have an answer. It depends on which side of the debate you're on. Do you believe that we know how to walk when we're born and just have to develop our bodies to do so? Or do we learn from watching our siblings and parents? There is no way to get the answer, as we cannot read the minds of children. Until we can, all discussions like this are pointless.


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#30
Both. Listen to Pablo Honey, then listen to In Rainbows, and you'll understand.
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#32
I think it's a little of both....at least for me

For my 6th b-day I had noticed I had a guitar cake while watching the home movies...(I'm making them all into DVDs.). I've always been into music....enjoyed listening to it and creating it.

I started on drums and they are my #1 instrument as I've spend the most time with it over the years but now I'm on guitar, keys, and vocals.

I've learned by playing on my own how to do different things with these instruments which is the learning part of the deal.
#34
Both.

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Agreed. Both, and it's also a matter of passion that drives it.

things like having a good ear for pitches and manual dexterity are all decided at birth, but you can easily practice and learn shiz like that to any level you want, from any any ability you start with

I dunno id say a bit of both

put me in a room with a random instrument ive never played before and id be able to wack out some simple melodies in half an hour. Born with the ability to learn quickly.

on the other hand you have to learn to be goood at music

and experience helps :P

I'm the same way. It's a combination of both. And there's different genetic things that can be involved too. You could have better dexterity or more creativity or both.

its kind of both, like if you have no musical talent whatsoever and you try to play an instrument, of course you will suck. like my uncle, when he was 23 he tried to learn guitar, and after 2 years he could hardly play the rhythm for back in black, and he was also practicing like every day. so, if your born with some musical talent, you have to learn the rest

both....

Both.

Both. A mate of mine started playing at the same kinda time as me but he's a very musical guy with a musical family and I'm not so he ****s on everything I do and has like perfect ears whereas I'm like tone deaf. But I work hard to force the ability into me so I'm not bad. I think everyone can do it, but the natural ability makes it so much easier to learn and understand.

Well, I think it's a mix of both. A friend of mine is a drummer, yet he can pick up pretty much every instrument, even if he's never played it before, and play it good enough so that it doesn't sound like he's a complete beginner. Yet he's obviously not as good at those instruments as people who have actually learned them.

both - you need good coordination which i dont think you can learn.

Talent: Born with it.
Technique and theory: Learned.

Both. Listen to Pablo Honey, then listen to In Rainbows, and you'll understand.

I think it's a little of both....at least for me

For my 6th b-day I had noticed I had a guitar cake while watching the home movies...(I'm making them all into DVDs.). I've always been into music....enjoyed listening to it and creating it.

I started on drums and they are my #1 instrument as I've spend the most time with it over the years but now I'm on guitar, keys, and vocals.

I've learned by playing on my own how to do different things with these instruments which is the learning part of the deal.

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#35
It's both. You can be born with it, but if u train yourself, you can learn it too. I grew up liking music a lot. I was like 4 or 5, and my cousin taught me to play some songs on a mini piano and so i really had a thing for playing notes by ear. but even if u never had experience, if u listen to music, you can learn to feel it, just train urself and stuff. you can do anything you set ur mind to
#36
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i could keep up with people that had been playing for countless number of years at 7 months
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#38
well, its not like you can shred when you pop out of the womb, but i think that some people have a natural ability towards music, just as much as some people are more inclined to art or athletics. but there are many degrees in the middle. but anything can be learned. just some people can learn things faster then others because of what they are born with.
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#39
It's all about how you approach it. If you really want to learn it and have a passion for it then you obviously will get better. People aren't born with musical ability, it's not possible.
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#40
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It's all about how you approach it. If you really want to learn it and have a passion for it then you obviously will get better. People aren't born with musical ability, it's not possible.


not necessarily born with a musical ability, but to be mentally and physically inclined towards learning musical abilities faster then others.
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