#1
Is it a completely stupid idea to customize my SG 310? It'smy only guitar and I thought of a few ideas that would look pretty cool with it.

- Change the headstock to a BC rich warlock shape

- Swap the neck and bridge pickups (Im getting a DiMarzio Evolution Neck pickup, ill get a bridge one later)

- Change inlays to Vine of life

That's basically what I want to do with it, or would it be smarter to just buy a better guitar before I switch out the pickups?


Also, another question, since christmas is coming I can somethign fairly expensive and I was wonderign which would be a better buy.

- BOSS DS-1

or

- DiMarzio Evolution Neck Pickup?

I'm trying to go for a Vai/Gilbert sound.
Thanks in advance.
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#3
Quote by forwhomthebells
DiMarzio Evolution Neck Pickup



When I mention i want to get that to my friend (He's been playign for 4 years), he just says it's dumb to swap pickups on such a cheap guitar.
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#4
First, the Boss DS-1 isn't expensive only about 30 dollars. If you going to spend all that money on stuff, get a nice guitar. If you want to do all the swaping do it for expirence, but nothing beats a quality made guitar. Turns out the pickups are only part of the expirence.
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#5
Quote by teknotard
First, the Boss DS-1 isn't expensive only about 30 dollars. If you going to spend all that money on stuff, get a nice guitar. If you want to do all the swaping do it for expirence, but nothing beats a quality made guitar. Turns out the pickups are only part of the expirence.



Even if I do swap pickups, when I get a better guitar I can just take the DiMarzios and put them in it. Pickups don't crap out for awhile right?
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#6
Thats true.... You can def do that, very good point. Have you done any of this before? if not I would not recomend ripping apart your guitar.. How much are looking to spend overall, and what kind of music do you play. Maybe I can recomend a guitar with in the price range... Trust me i have kept all my crappy guitars and it is really nice to have more then one. Espiecailly if at a a show you can swap...

Also, what is your rationaly for swaping the pickups? If it is becasue they are noisy that makes sense. but what other reason
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#7
Quote by MedicreDemon
- Change the headstock to a BC rich warlock shape

Not worth the trouble.

Quote by MedicreDemon
- Swap the neck and bridge pickups (Im getting a DiMarzio Evolution Neck pickup, ill get a bridge one later)

Does your guitar sound good unplugged? If it does, better pickups is a good idea.

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- Change inlays to Vine of life

Definitely not worth the trouble.
#9
Quote by teknotard
Thats true.... You can def do that, very good point. Have you done any of this before? if not I would not recomend ripping apart your guitar.. How much are looking to spend overall, and what kind of music do you play. Maybe I can recomend a guitar with in the price range... Trust me i have kept all my crappy guitars and it is really nice to have more then one. Espiecailly if at a a show you can swap...

Also, what is your rationaly for swaping the pickups? If it is becasue they are noisy that makes sense. but what other reason



I don't actually have any money. That's why I have to rely on christmas/birthday money to buy anything.

I've never customized anything before, so I'm a noob at it. I play mostly Steve Vai/Satriani stuff and cleaner songs from bands like Opeth. I wanna switch out the pickups because I still have the stock on my SG and they sound like crap and I need mre sustain without slapping a bunch of compression on. I barely use my bridge pickup that's why I'm only swapping out the neck.
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#11
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Put a Fernandes Sustainer and a Killswitch in it.



What does a killswitch even do?
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#12
Quote by mr_hankey
^All the more reason to change the bridge pickup instead.



I barely use it because the neck pickup is better for leads, not because it sounds worse.
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#13
Have you tired lowering the action and raising the pickups to increase gain? what makes it sound like crap to you?
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#14
Quote by teknotard
Have you tired lowering the action and raising the pickups to increase gain? what makes it sound like crap to you?



It sounds like crap because I go for a cleaner distortion, not extreme distortion but I need the heavy distortion to get the sustain I want.
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#15
Quote by MedicreDemon
What does a killswitch even do?

It kills the sound when you flip a switch or press a button. Check out "Jordan" by buckethead
#16
Just as a side note, all of my guitars still have stock pick ups in them, you can often change the tone simply by changing your distortion and or amp settings. I have made my semi hollow sound so heavy it isnt even funny just with the right settings. Honestly, I think you are better off saving for a new guitar or a really good Dist/ overdrive... YOu will be surprised how much better it will sound
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#17
hmmm if you have a problem with the switchs it might be a wireing issue... i would check that out.... make sure all the connection are correct..
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#18
Quote by teknotard
hmmm if you have a problem with the switchs it might be a wireing issue... i would check that out.... make sure all the connection are correct..



What?
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Last edited by MedicreDemon at Nov 4, 2007,
#20
Quote by MedicreDemon
It sounds like crap because I go for a cleaner distortion, not extreme distortion but I need the heavy distortion to get the sustain I want.


No, you need a new amp.
#21
Would it be better to save for a new guitar or should I upgrade my amp? I have a fender frontman 15G and I thought about buying this http://www.music123.com/Crate-GTD65-Guitar-Amplifier-480063-i1171326.Music123
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#23
Quote by mr_hankey
Nooo...
That's really not an upgrade. It's just as bad as your Frontman, only louder.



Well I dont know what to get then. I don't really play loud and I don't gig.
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#25
Quote by Pingis_Or_Death
A microcube perhaps?



Why would I want a tiny little battery powered amp?
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#26
a vox ad30vt would be good and right at that price range

it will make alot of difference on your tone, you may not need to replace pickups
#27
You said you play Satch, so maybe a Mini Colossal? They don't really do metal, I don't think, but for cleans and leads they're quite nice.
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#28
Quote by MedicreDemon
Why would I want a tiny little battery powered amp?


Well, it's not really "battery powered". I think most people don't use it with batteries, but instead use the AC adapter.

Also, it's basically a practicing amp. That's all you can do with it - practice in your bedroom. I suggest you get something bigger, maybe some other Cube, but look into the Voxes too.
#29
i upgraded from a frontman 15g to a microcube and it was awesome.. the microcube has pretty good sustain and the amp modeler lets me get virtually any saound i want. If you don't want to spend mch on a tube amp or you only play for practice get the microcube man.

Its louder than my friend's drumset when i crank it up ;P