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Im sitting here doing my World History homework, and reading about all these wars over religion, and how people used religion to explain the unexplainable. Then it got me thinking, Doens't Science explain what we think (or thought) was unexplainable? I mean, sure, we have "proof", but back then they thought they had proof too...

So, Is science a religion? (no poll )
#6
Sciencism or scientism.
Philosophies have been derived, such as transhumanism.

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#7
Science has evidence to back it up. It isn't something you can not believe in.
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#9
Oh my Science!

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#12
Science only equates to religion in philosophy, when you can't know anything based on inductive thinking.

For the REST of us, science = evidence while religion = faith. Evidence =/= faith.

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#13
...there the opposite of each other.....

religion states things and explains them by saying you must have faith and believe

and science states things and backs them up with hard evidence, and proof


thats like asking are penis's and vagina's the same
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#14
Well... I guess it could be, I mean, Science involves SOLID CONCRETE proof.

Religion is based on faith.

So that's the main contradiction, you dig?
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Doesn't Science explain what we think (or thought) was unexplainable? I mean, sure, we have "proof", but back then they thought they had proof too...


What science cannot explain, it admits so and uses theories instead of dogma or absolutes, which religion tends to use. These theories can be contradictory and multiple, but as research gets better, more and more disappear from deduction.

Science sets out to explain nature in abstract terms. It doesn't attempt to extract meaning or motivate others with fact to believe in certain ways...only to inquire further into the subject matter.
#16
No. Religion is usually characterized by a set of beliefs about an afterlife or morals. Science has neither.
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No.

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No.



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#19
religion is a set of beliefs

science is study of truths

so no. unless you want to contradict yourself
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Science only equates to religion in philosophy, when you can't know anything based on inductive thinking.

For the REST of us, science = evidence while religion = faith. Evidence =/= faith.


Popper said that using deductive reasoning (through falsifying the null hypothesis) is true science.

Sure we have to assume that our perceptions are accurate for science to be accurate, but deductive argument is valid logic and therefore puts science at least one step higher than religion in terms of what we "know" philosophically.
#22
i can choose not to believe certain aspects of science. if there is one thing i know about science, it's that it is constantly being proven wrong.
#23
Actually getting some intelligent answers... wow.


There was some time back though a study of a dieing man in Taiwan. They weighed him before he died, and right after he died. They took everything into account and found that he was lighter. Not saying it proves religion, but it is possible there is a soul, or something like it. Maybe a slight chance of not just completely going out of existance when you die
#24
we wouldn't have a lot of science without religion. it must be sad being on one side or the other and thinking they are at odds with each other.

Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Each can draw the other into a wider world, a world in which both can flourish. - JPII

edit: to the guy above me, i don't buy that 21 grams stuff. a soul is noncorporeal. there could be a connection, but i doubt the soul weighs 21 grams.
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#25
i believe religion is ruining our world........................
I see science solving answers and curing people

and i see religion giving people hope that ends up being no good

mabye im totally wrong.... mabye im completely right, who knows?????
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#26
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Science only equates to religion in philosophy, when you can't know anything based on inductive thinking.

For the REST of us, science = evidence while religion = faith. Evidence =/= faith.

This is pretty much the only post in the thread worth reading. The rest (okay, most of them) is just stupid **** spewed out by pseudo-intellectual teenies looking to make themselves seem smarter than they actually are.

edit:
Primusfan is obviously exempt for the fact that he isn't anti-religious/LOLHARDxC0rEATHEIST.
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#27
Quote by captainjackass

There was some time back though a study of a dieing man in Taiwan. They weighed him before he died, and right after he died. They took everything into account and found that he was lighter. Not saying it proves religion, but it is possible there is a soul, or something like it. Maybe a slight chance of not just completely going out of existance when you die


if there is such thing as a soul, it wouldn't weigh anything, that's exactly the point, its independent of the body
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we wouldn't have a lot of science without religion. it must be sad being on one side or the other and think they are at odds with each other.

Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. Each can draw the other into a wider world, a world in which both can flourish. - JPII



Wow! whats that from? Im doing an argumentative thesis on that subject about how the two can coexist.
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Quote by captainjackass
Actually getting some intelligent answers... wow.


There was some time back though a study of a dieing man in Taiwan. They weighed him before he died, and right after he died. They took everything into account and found that he was lighter. Not saying it proves religion, but it is possible there is a soul, or something like it. Maybe a slight chance of not just completely going out of existance when you die

Last thing you do when you die is empty your bowels...
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Quote by captainjackass
Actually getting some intelligent answers... wow.


There was some time back though a study of a dieing man in Taiwan. They weighed him before he died, and right after he died. They took everything into account and found that he was lighter. Not saying it proves religion, but it is possible there is a soul, or something like it. Maybe a slight chance of not just completely going out of existance when you die


i've heard of that before...apparently when everyone dies, they lose a couple of grams of weight just after they die, and scientists can't figure out why this happens or where that lost weight goes.

one's soul escaping, perhaps?
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Last thing you do when you die is empty your bowels...



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Lol.
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This is pretty much the only post in the thread worth reading. The rest (okay, most of them) is just stupid **** spewed out by pseudo-intellectual teenies looking to make themselves seem smarter than they actually are.
edit:
Primusfan is obviously exempt for the fact that he isn't anti-religious/LOLHARDxC0rEATHEIST.



Lolz, sorry for asking a question. How dare I think of something other than teh guitar and teh b00bz


Primusfan's answer +1
#34
no. theres no need to elaborate, either.
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#35
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Last thing you do when you die is empty your bowels...


that's already taken into account, and its a certain number (weight) thats the same for everyone, regardless of age/weight etc
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Sometimes my penis stands up so I rub it and then he gets sick from the rubbing (probably an upset tummy) and throws up ... ...
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Im 18 and ive never had a wet dream. is that normal?
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I used to think that girls only had 2 holes

^sex?
#36
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that's already taken into account, and its a certain number (weight) thats the same for everyone, regardless of age/weight etc



maybe it's the last breath of air in ones body? Just a guess.
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/Reference

Lol.

no reference, I just know from my old job at a mortuary, I had to clean a lot of ****
#38
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no reference, I just know from my old job at a mortuary, I had to clean a lot of ****



What a shitty job.
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Wow! whats that from? Im doing an argumentative thesis on that subject about how the two can coexist.


they coexist because any real religious person believes that their faith is true. with that presupposition, science cannot be at odds with it. scientific discovery can only help to clear up misconceptions within religion. when that happens atheists cry "copout they're changing their beliefs" but from a religious standpoint it makes sense. it's not changing it's clarifying what's true to better understand the ultimate truth.
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