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#1
This is pretty fucked up.

Apparently some 18 year old asshole killed the principal and wounded 4 students at a high school in Tuusula. But you know how it is: "We're all living in america". He had posted a warning on youtube few days earlier, has multiple videos of the columbine shootings in his profile, and labels himself as "misanthropist" "anti society" or some other bullshit.

This is extremely depressing. I've got 6 months of high school left and now I've got to worry about some retards mimicing this asshole. Maybe I should invest in a kevlar vest.

I wish i could stomp the guy to death. It's rumored that the police has caught him, that pussy couldn't even kill himself. Fucking failure.
#2
The world's a crazy place. Full of crazy people. Shame this lunatic wasn't caught earlier, seeing as, by the sound of it, he made his intentions abundantly clear.

Edit: All the tabloids seem so have different versions. Apparently no-one seems to know how many were injured. You're pretty quick to bring this up though, TS. Seems like it's breaking news.
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#3
Chill out, mate. This was just one guy who was disturbed for some reason; that's not to say every school will become a Columbine shooting.

At the same time, I do wish this wouldn't happen, that people would spot what's wrong with the shooters before people die like this.
#4
I don't understand how anyone can claim to be a misanthrope and not kill themself. But yeah that is pretty messed up, as any shooting is.
#5
In finland that's a new one...pretty damn unlucky if it happens at your school.

Lucky I go to a christian school, not even a fight!
#6
Quote by Discouraged
The world's a crazy place. Full of crazy people. Shame this lunatic wasn't caught earlier, seeing as, by the sound of it, he made his intentions abundantly clear.

Edit: All the tabloids seem so have different versions. Apparently no-one seems to know how many were injured. You're pretty quick to bring this up though, TS. Seems like it's breaking news.


Yeah I heard about it when I was just leaving school.

Apparently he killed 3 students too, it was on the news just now.
#8
We're all living in america


too true Till, too true.

luckily here in aus we havent had anything like this happen.

anyway im currently researching this kinda thing, cos im making a film about a school shooting next year. With virginia tech, and now this, its obviously a problem that continues to escalate and needs to be looked at.
#9
Most of the "copycats" to stuff like that are attention *****s that just want to be noticed(as was the case in my 11th grade year in high school. Someone made a list of "people who should die" and talked about how he wanted to bring a gun and shoot everybody; but blabbered about it to everyone he could for about a week or so with no intention of doing it.).

It sucks when something like that happens though. High school(and school in general) is filled with enough BS you have to worry about as it is. From what I read though; there's no spike in school shootings or anything; it's just that now *more* of them are getting national news coverage. Statistically speaking you shouldn't worry too much about that happening to you(unless you just have really ****ty luck I guess).
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#11
Quote by Mr Montana
Lucky I go to a christian school, not even a fight!


Go wack a bible in your head

And yeah, Finland, wow. Not a country I would suspect to have a school shooting. I mean, they have the Mummi Troll!
#12
Quote by Deflection
Not a country I would suspect to have a school shooting. I mean, they have the Mummi Troll!


Aren't they like, 'The Moomins?' That's what I thought, anyway. Never heard them being called Mummi Trolls before. Unless I'm missing something.
#13
If you worried about every unlikely possibility in life, like some guy going on a rampage in your school, you would never leave the house.

This kinda thing sucks, but sometimes life is a bit ****ed up.

Can anyone link me to his Youtube profile?
#14
Where I come from they're known as Moomins. That was one weird-ass cartoon...
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#15
Quote by Firewind Raging
Where I come from they're known as Moomins. That was one weird-ass cartoon...


Yah. They're like a cross between the Amish and hippies.
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#16
Quote by jasp0r
Looks like this is his youtube account: http://nl.youtube.com/user/Sturmgeist89

Theres a whole text about why he did it... All I can think of after reading it is "what an idiot".


I agree, he regards himself as more intelligent than everyone else yet its very apparent that he's just another outcast degenerate trying to get attention.

Quote by OffspringPhreak

It sucks when something like that happens though. High school(and school in general) is filled with enough BS you have to worry about as it is. From what I read though; there's no spike in school shootings or anything; it's just that now *more* of them are getting national news coverage. Statistically speaking you shouldn't worry too much about that happening to you(unless you just have really ****ty luck I guess).


I understand, but before this the most violence finnish schools have had is a few stabbings with no fatalities. So this is pretty shocking. Gun crimes in general are rare here.
#17
his profile got suspended,

got this:
SICK BASTARD


Naam: Pekka-Eric Auvinen
Leeftijd: 18
Male from Finland.

I am a cynical existentialist, antihuman humanist, antisocial socialdarwinist, realistic idealist and godlike atheist.

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM! JUSTITIA SUUM CUIQUE DISTRIBUIT! SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!

I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection.

You might ask yourselves, why did I do this and what do I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and closed-minded to understand... You will proprably say me that I am"insane", "crazy", "psychopath", "criminal" or crap like that. No, the truth is that I am just an animl, a human, an individual, a dissident.

I have had enough. I don't want to be part of this ****ed up society. Like some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth fighting for or saving... only worth killing. But... When my enemies will run and hide in fear when mentioning my name... When the gangsters of the corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can't alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

I am ready to die for a cause I know is right, just and true... even if I would lose or the battle would be only remembered as evil... I will rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. Don't blame anyone else for my actions than myself. Don't blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. Don't blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on tracks!
#18
Quote by Firewind Raging
Where I come from they're known as Moomins. That was one weird-ass cartoon...

It's ****ing awesome! One of my favourite cartoons (when I was a child, that is) I have all of the episodes on VHS. But it was of course my parents and not I who recorded it.
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#19
I think it's good in a way that they caught him before he managed to kill himself. That way they can attempt to bring some justice to the situation, unlike the arseholes that let cowardice take over and kill themselves. Then one day, hopefully, he will be set free and be lynched on the streets and tortured and killed.


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#20
^^ the video on his profile doesnt work, which sucks.

also he has a rapid share link to a video file that would have been interestng to me.

but rapid share have removed it!!!!
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#23
i go to the international school in helsinki now everyone is paranoid about someone just coming in to school and shooting people...

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#24
Quote by Han0s
I never thought anything like this could happen in Finland

Same here. No offence to you americans, but I allways thought that these only happen there, considering we have much more strict gun-laws.

But I guess that there is screwed up people everywhere.
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#25
According to the police and hospital sources there's eight people dead and the shooter is wounded and treated in hospital now.
#26
Quote by Froddy
I think it's good in a way that they caught him before he managed to kill himself. That way they can attempt to bring some justice to the situation, unlike the arseholes that let cowardice take over and kill themselves. Then one day, hopefully, he will be set free and be lynched on the streets and tortured and killed.

He shot himself in the head. He is braindead. Eventually they'll disconnect the wires and he'll be offically dead.
#27
Quote by MankiiKing
This is pretty fucked up.

Apparently some 18 year old asshole killed the principal and wounded 4 students at a high school in Tuusula. But you know how it is: "We're all living in america". He had posted a warning on youtube few days earlier, has multiple videos of the columbine shootings in his profile, and labels himself as "misanthropist" "anti society" or some other bullshit.

This is extremely depressing. I've got 6 months of high school left and now I've got to worry about some retards mimicing this asshole. Maybe I should invest in a kevlar vest.

I wish i could stomp the guy to death. It's rumored that the police has caught him, that pussy couldn't even kill himself. Fucking failure.

He actually killed at least 7 student plus the headmaster of the school.
#28
Quote by Draken
What a nutjob and don't just blame america.

but y n0t drak we al kno dat it iz americaz folt bcoz dey av ad so many of dese shootings b4 lyk so it must be americaz fault!!!!!11111111!!oneon!!!!!!

I agree, I mean I'm as typical as any other Brit in thinking Americans are pricks, but anyone blaming them is thicker than a pornstar's ****.


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#29
Same here. No offence to you americans, but I allways thought that these only happen there, considering we have much more strict gun-laws.

But I guess that there is screwed up people everywhere.


You do realize that gun laws really don't mean a ****. Seriously guns haven't gotten any more deadly or more available since the 30's. The world never saw school shootings in the 50's, 60's, hell even 70's, or 80's. The sad fact is society is getting more and more ****ed up, and we're just trying to find things to blame other than ourselves.
#30
I live in Finland.

This is sad.

He obviously AT first was a fine thinker about the politics of the world and a supporter of socialism, but something made him shift to what he is now. This is what I heard from a gaming forum, where he had these political discussions.

But then He began to admire Hitler, Stalin and other men like these. And he started a war on humanity. He kept himself supreme, and others thrash. And thrash must obviously be cleaned, and this would mean the system, because in his beliefs the system is idiotic - So he began a war on it.

If he said that he doesn't want to live a crappy long life in prison, then why did he let himself arrested? Because he'll be spending his life in prison.

And what if some more freaks begin shooting in other high schools? It's a scary thought, cause I'm in a high school.

EDIT: made some editings to not confuse it so that I would be a scary dumb ass.
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#31
Quote by Zuker12
I live in Finland.

This is sad.

He obviously first was a fine thinker about the politics of the world and a supporter of socialism, but something made him shift to what he is now.


A supporter of socialism? Are you dense? He goes about preaching survival of the fittest and extreme individualism. That's the opposite of socialism. He wasn't socialist, he was a friggin' anarchist/fascist. And he wasn't a fine thinker about the politics of the world, he was a radical dumbass who blew everything WAY out of proportion and convinced himself that he was better than everyone else.

He wanted natural selection, well I guess he got it because now his stupid retard ass is gonna die in jail.
#33
Quote by SkyValley
A supporter of socialism? Are you dense? He goes about preaching survival of the fittest and extreme individualism. That's the opposite of socialism. He wasn't socialist, he was a friggin' anarchist/fascist. And he wasn't a fine thinker about the politics of the world, he was a radical dumbass who blew everything WAY out of proportion and convinced himself that he was better than everyone else.

He wanted natural selection, well I guess he got it because now his stupid retard ass is gonna die in jail.


Sigh.. no I meant before his screws got loose...

He apparanently had some problems in his personal life, and he began shifting towards what he is now. He consumed Hitler's ideologies and somehow admired them. This in conjuction with his personal problems might have lead to his current state.

Hopefully people now understood what I meant. He was a fine political thinker a few years ago, but now he is what he is.

In all it's simplicity, he WAS a supporter of socialism few years back, but got "bored" with life because it's corrupt. So he turned from socialism to anarchism/nazism/whatever.

I'm not a native english speaker, and I first wrote my previous post so that it seemed like I was a dumbass too. But I am not. So apologies to anyone who misunderstood my post.
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#34
It is pretty screwed up, did anyone see the one tree episode with that jimmy dude, there must be some motives apart from being ****ing sick to do something like that
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#35
Oh so basically he jumped all the way to the other end of the political spectrum for no reason. I can see how that might fk someone up.

I don't support socialism in any way, quite frankly I think it's disgusting, but I'm not some neo-nazi darwinist moron either. I am a strong supporter of Individual rights and survival of the fittest, but only through legitimate means. I want a society which removes the lazy worthless people not by force, but by simply leaving them alone. If they have it in them to succeed, they will. If not...well I'm certainly not going to miss them no matter what becomes of them. In other words I want minimal welfare and laissez-faire government. This way nobody gets hurt unless they hurt themselves, and the qualities of everyone's lives are the products of their own choices.

But now this hypocrite tool is going to give individualists a bad name, I just know it . All the blind, bleeding-heart socialist types are going to use dumbasses like this as reasons why we need more government control when what we actually need is less.
#36
Well, about how he might have gotten into this state he is in now, there might have been many personal life factors, such as relationships, loneliness, depression, other mental illnesses, financial problems etc.

So he might have tried to find a better life/way of life in someone elses ideology/lifestyle/etc. and when he realized he couldn't have life go that way, he decided that life is <<insert your bad adjective here>>
#37
Quote by StenTheAwesome
You do realize that gun laws really don't mean a ****. Seriously guns haven't gotten any more deadly or more available since the 30's. The world never saw school shootings in the 50's, 60's, hell even 70's, or 80's. The sad fact is society is getting more and more ****ed up, and we're just trying to find things to blame other than ourselves.


I agree with you that for the most part gun laws don't mean ****. If someone wants something bad enough nothing is going to stop them.

On the other hand, are you kidding me about not seeing shootings earlier in the century?

Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman climbs atop the observation deck at the University of Texas–Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31 during a 96-minute rampage.

Jan. 17, 1969: Two students are shot and killed at the University of California–Los Angeles during a student meeting.

May 4, 1970: Four students are killed and nine wounded when National Guard soldiers attempt to control an antiwar demonstration at Ohio's Kent State University.

1974: A 17-year-old Regents scholar brings guns and homemade bombs to his college, then kills three adults and wounds 11 others from his sniper post on the top floor.

1978: A 15-year-old in Lansing, Mich., kills one bully and wounds a second.

Oct. 23, 1985: The dean of Bates College in Maine is shot in the back by a sniper while standing in his kitchen in a house just off campus. The dean survived the shooting, and the captain of the school's swim team was arrested in connection with the incident.

Nov. 26, 1985: A high school student in Washington State dies after shooting herself the previous day. Police say the female student earlier shot and killed two 14-year-old boys, one of them her former boyfriend.

Aug. 12, 1986: Five people are shot and one killed by a student at New York Technical College in Brooklyn.

Those are just a few of them, there were many more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

http://www.knowgangs.com/school_resources/timeline/

School shootings seem to be happening more and more recently, but on the other hand media in the 90's-00's has changed a lot since the 80's with the introduction of the internet and multiple news casting stations so you hear about this stuff more often.
#38
hollow some of those don't really fall under the same category

especially Ohio that wasn't a student that shot another student

and the dean being shot by the captain of the swim team doesn't really count as a school shooting either that was just attempted murder
#39
Quote by SkyValley
Oh so basically he jumped all the way to the other end of the political spectrum for no reason. I can see how that might fk someone up.

I don't support socialism in any way, quite frankly I think it's disgusting, but I'm not some neo-nazi darwinist moron either. I am a strong supporter of Individual rights and survival of the fittest, but only through legitimate means. I want a society which removes the lazy worthless people not by force, but by simply leaving them alone. If they have it in them to succeed, they will. If not...well I'm certainly not going to miss them no matter what becomes of them. In other words I want minimal welfare and laissez-faire government. This way nobody gets hurt unless they hurt themselves, and the qualities of everyone's lives are the products of their own choices.

But now this hypocrite tool is going to give individualists a bad name, I just know it . All the blind, bleeding-heart socialist types are going to use dumbasses like this as reasons why we need more government control when what we actually need is less.


I agree, but I think that unrestricted capitalism is a really bad thing. A lot could be solved if there were certain ways money could not be made, ie. prison systems, pharmaceuticals(I don't mean get rid of them, I mean regulate it so that it's not driven by capitalist ideals). If money stopped being the motivator for our world, a lot of problems would be solved.
#40
Quote by lostherox__-=_
hollow some of those don't really fall under the same category

especially Ohio that wasn't a student that shot another student

and the dean being shot by the captain of the swim team doesn't really count as a school shooting either that was just attempted murder


If you want to go by technicality those were school shootings since they took place on school property, but I do understand why you would put a few of those in a different catagory.
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