#1
Ok well what's the big difference between the two? The XL says it has high-gain sounds. What does this do? And its only $50 more, is it worth it? Or just stick with the regular?
#2
It just has more brootal amp models. I never had a problem with the regular, but I'm not a metalhead, and mine never really left the AC15 or AC30 settings.
#3
I had a vox amp..just like the one you are talkin about.
If you are gonna play harder stuff I suggest you looking
into another brand. I outgrew my Vox rather quickly.
The blues and classic rock tones are absolutely beautiful,
however I play some of everything and it just didn't have
enough horsepower all around for my taste. I cant blame
the amp for my experience because it was a great amp.
I just played music that wasn't very suitable its tones.
The only thing I can say about this amp that is negative is
that they sound better the more you crank them up.
Recording with them can sound totally different depending
on how loud you play them. Riffs can actually transform.
I live in an apartment and I couldnt really blast it..but one nite
I played at a blues venue and surprised myself with my
own tone. I think the controls are limited and some of
the special effects hardly even make a difference. If I were
you I would really look into a decent amp and build my own
sound through pedals. I've made the same mistakes with
buying multi-effect amps...it can really be hit or miss.

My spider has digital effects built in..but i dont use them.
I just wanted a solid state 100+ watt amp that sounded
good.

I do have to say though..That Vox tube kicks some serious
@$$ for blues and rock. I didnt enjoy playing metal on it though.
I needed too many effects to get a tone that was not up to
what i imagined.

I love all types of music ...but now I judge an amp by its ability
to produce metal tones. From my experience..if it can do metal..
it can do anything else.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
#4
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
My spider has digital effects built in..but i dont use them.
I just wanted a solid state 100+ watt amp that sounded
good.

you realise that you replaced a perfectly good gigging amp with an oversized practice amp? have you cranked the spider yet? I'll be really surprised if you aren't extremely disappointed with it after cranking the vox, even if the spider is more geared towards metal. Spiders are practice amps, they aren't meant to be cranked.

back on topic:

I've heard the XL can be a bit weak sounding. The chrome front valvetronix is actually pretty good at metal tones if you get the amp settings right. Just don't crank the gain (don't push it much further than half way and you will have plenty of growl), and don't scoop the mids, and you should get a good metal tone from it - i think the main problem is that the classic rock/mid gain tones like the AC30TB setting completely overshadow the heavier settings, and in addition to that, you wouldn't really associate vox with heavy metal tones either. plus, there's no corporate persuasion telling you its a good amp for metal - they aim the amp at the more indie or classic rock sort of crowd it seems.
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#5
Quote by Blompcube
you realise that you replaced a perfectly good gigging amp with an oversized practice amp? have you cranked the spider yet? I'll be really surprised if you aren't extremely disappointed with it after cranking the vox, even if the spider is more geared towards metal. Spiders are practice amps, they aren't meant to be cranked.


Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me>?

Seriously....Are you kidding me>?

You Must be a rookie.

Thats all im gonna say.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
#6
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
From my experience..if it can do metal..
it can do anything else.


Mesa Dual Rectifier for blues? I'm sorry but your experience is wrong.
#7
I've always found that the regular Valvetronix has some pretty good metal tones if you tweak it right

The XL Series got a great review in Total Guitar but they're always giving crap things good reviews and picking out minor flaws in great things.
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#9
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me>?

Seriously....Are you kidding me>?

You Must be a rookie.

Thats all im gonna say.

Speak for yourself buddy, you're pretty oblivious.


The Vox AD30VT-XL is a good bit heavier. I bought a tubescreamer for my AD30, and it sounds fantastic. I was never able to get a true dirty tone out of it but with the TS9 (modded to 808) I was able to do it. I didn't try out the cleans when I played the XL, but it didn't seem a whole lot different. I thought I could get my AD30VT to sound like that but then again I didn't compare them side-by-side.
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#10
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
I love all types of music ...but now I judge an amp by its ability
to produce metal tones. From my experience..if it can do metal..
it can do anything else.

Try to do Dick Dale on a 5150, and come back.
#11
Quote by the.spine.surfs
Try to do Dick Dale on a 5150, and come back.


Seriously..do I look like I care about Dick Dale...

The point is...If you can get an amp to get that metal tone that you love with
no effects...

Common sense would tell you that you can get anything in the range of...
clean to metal with it. That would make it able to do Death Metal and Dick dale.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
Last edited by Washburnd Fretz at Nov 8, 2007,
#12
Quote by Miasma909
Mesa Dual Rectifier for blues? I'm sorry but your experience is wrong.


Sure you could play blues on a Mesa Dual Rectifier....

Amplifiers are not Genre/specific
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#13
Quote by acdcrocks0323
Actually it seems like you are the one not kowing what they're talking about.



A spider cant be used for gigging?

You guys actually think a 30 watt Vox with a half-ass sissy tube is
the superman of amps? Ive had both and all i can say..is...

wow...

You guys that are on my back must all be Vox owners...

Crack must be easier to get than i thought...cuz OBVIOUSLY A lot
of people seem to be smoking it...

30 Watts pushing one 10?

So what if its got a tube...Yes tubes are louder...
Compare that to a 50 watt solid state with one 10.
I could understand that.

How in da heck could you compare that to 120 watts pushin 2 10 inch celestions.
Even Split that is 2- 60 watt 10's.

Who cares if the Spider is a solid state. If you were to take that Vox vt30 to a battle
with somebody with the spider...you would loose. Nobody would even hear that
Vox. Get outta here with that nonsense. If you use compression and limiters ...
as some players do..you wont even get into a range where a tube would make
alot of difference anyhow. Tubes are great and all...but just because an amp has
a tube does not mean that it can sound better than any solid state. This is the
same ludicrous narcissistic attitudes that lead people with limited knowledge of
musical equipment to buy whatever is most talked about. You can say whatever
you want about the VOX valvetronix 30....

At the end of the day..it didnt have enough power for me. Thats why I went on
to something better.

By the way...Jimi Hendrix ended up playing Marshall's because the VOX
just wasn't built for his kind of tones...lmao

Now put that in your little glass pipe and smoke it.

Im so sick of you wannabe *experts* that get off on splitting hairs.
If you are gonna argue a point thats fine. But bring some with facts
instead of acting all self-righteous like your word is law. It doesnt work.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
Last edited by Washburnd Fretz at Nov 9, 2007,
#14
Quote by Blompcube
Spiders are practice amps, they aren't meant to be cranked.



I Challenge you to back that up with some evidence...
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#15
SPIDERS ARE POOOOOOOO!!!! VOX ARE BETTER!!!!! I have had both plus a CUBE and the vox does a thick piss all over the spiders.
#16
This thread is gay. yet another example of **** vs. **** and my **** is better than your **** cuz cuz cuz cuz cuz uhhhh. Play your **** and shut up. I swear everytime I come to these forums I see one or two of these pointless fn threads.

NOW KEEP TALKING **** ABOUT YOUR AWESOME 300 DOLLAR AMPS