#1
I am currently renting a Les Paul studio and really like it alot. I have about 2 grand ready to buy one when the time comes but i cant decide weather to stick with a studio or splurge for a standard. Is the extra couple a hundred bucks worth what you get? Or is there another les paul in the same price range that i should try. THanks for your help.
#2
see if there are any japanese made tokais floating about ebay. superior to gibson in 99% of cases, and a lot cheaper
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I'd do a standard over a classic. I like the pickups and the sound better. Better overall feel and sound, and the no pickguard look is killer.
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see if there are any japanese made tokais floating about ebay. superior to gibson in 99% of cases, and a lot cheaper


no offense, but i hate that logic. there's a reason why a majority of people have played Gibson for the last 40-50 years and it's not just because of the namebrand. i'll admit the quality of the gibson name has gone down a bit, but 99% of the time is a major over-exaggeration
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I love my LP Classic, but the Std is nice too. I'm gonna swap the PUs anyway, so for me there's no difference.
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i really dont what to tell you this because i hate to see people play the same guitar i have but ESP EC-1000.
Gibson used to be good now its crap and overpriced crap.
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no offense, but i hate that logic. there's a reason why a majority of people have played Gibson for the last 40-50 years and it's not just because of the namebrand. i'll admit the quality of the gibson name has gone down a bit, but 99% of the time is a major over-exaggeration


Unfortunately, although people may have played Gibson for the last 40-50 years because they made quality products, that doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of Gibson products today, and the TS is, I assume, looking to buy a new Gibson Les Paul.

And while it may not be true that the Tokai's are better 99% of the time, nothing you offered in that last post demonstrates a higher order of logic than the other poster you disparaged.

Just my two cents.
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Also if you want a Gibby, try to find a late 90's one, that's was when they got good again...
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Unfortunately, although people may have played Gibson for the last 40-50 years because they made quality products, that doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of Gibson products today, and the TS is, I assume, looking to buy a new Gibson Les Paul.

And while it may not be true that the Tokai's are better 99% of the time, nothing you offered in that last post demonstrates a higher order of logic than the other poster you disparaged.

Just my two cents.


i never meant to disparge anyone at all. i was simply stating an opinion, just my two cents if you will, that his analysis was an exaggeration. and since i already stated in my post that the gibson name isn't the same quality as the guitars of old, i'd say your analysis of my post is just as flawed as mine. the only difference is im trying to validate a point about the quality of tokais vs. gibson, whereas you just seem bent on trying to make myself look foolish...just my two cents

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let me emphasize then that if the TS is willing to buy a used guitar, instead of buying a japanese copy on ebay, i would reccomend a studio les paul from the late 90'e era due to the well known craftsmanship. if TS want's a new gibson i'd go for a standard
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Here's the deal:
1)U get a gibson which is awsome and ownage which cost alot and doesnt break down so easily
2)U get a epiphone/tokai/Agile one but if u pick one with crappy workmanship, ur f**ked,otherwise, u still have a great guitar, so u gotta make sure urs is a well made model

My vote 4 a les paul goes 2 a epi LP custom plus,really great 4 me!
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Here's the deal:
1)U get a gibson which is awsome and ownage which cost alot and doesnt break down so easily
2)U get a epiphone/tokai/Agile one but if u pick one with crappy workmanship, ur f**ked,otherwise, u still have a great guitar, so u gotta make sure urs is a well made model

My vote 4 a les paul goes 2 a epi LP custom plus,really great 4 me!


1) Your posts make my eyes hurt.
2) If I had to take a guitar at random, I'd take a MIJ Tokai over a Gibson Les Paul every single time.
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