#1
why do most bands metal bands play songs in drop C.
even if a certain song could be played in standard tuning.

like say the lowest note in this song is F...why tune to drop C?
#2
Because, they're lazy and they don't want to have to train themselves to play regular power chords, so they drop tune so they can do it with one finger instead of two or three (I suppose I'm kind of like that...). I guess they could also just do like an open on all strings outro to fade out of the song.
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#3
drop c is easier to play and even if one song doesn't require it, another one generally will
it also allows them to play power chords on the bottom strings with one finger and the open bottom strings sound better in drop c
#4
it hasnt nothing to do with lowering the skill level and everything to with the sound. drop c will generally sound heaver than higher tunings.
#6
because they want a super low sound
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because they want a super low sound


and the singer doesn't have to reach as high notes for the same effect.
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but why not use drop D instead

And most of the time drop C goes with current musics vocals now.
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#10
Drop C ...can help you play chord progressions that are otherwise
impossible. You can play lightning fast...and hammer-on and pulloff
chords as well...

Drop tunings give you more of a presence. They really growl. They
can also give you some thunderous palm mutes. These tunings
will give you slightly slacker strings...so you can bend a little easier
and also get a little more out of your pinch harmonics..

Drop tunings can use chord progressions that are built from chromatic
one string scales on the lowest string. By using the one string ...
you can take the notes and make a chord progression..and easily
substitute a major for a flat and so forth...all you gotta do is count..

If you look at it another way..You can play your guitar as two different
instruments as well.

Strings 1+2+3 ....will be chords...thats one instrument...

Strings 5,4,3,2,1 ...will be a 5 string guitar..you can use scales that have a
root on the 5th string...thats the second...

you can look at the guitar and play it a million ways in this tuning...
but I wanna keep it simple

Sometimes a singer's voice may be better suited for a drop tuning...

I like to play blues..dropped down a full step...

Some of Hard playing bands have guitarists that love to play infectious
riffs. They dont care if they are simple or not..as long as they sound
great...who cares right? They save their technical skills for the solo's
anyway......

Dont let the tunings and the metal genre fool you though. A lot of the
music that makes people mosh to...has harmonies based on theory.
If you want good examples on how these theories became tried and
true...check out some classical music.

Why play drop C when the lowest note is F?
You also gain a new octave every time you tune down a half step.
You also loose one..but if you want the lower octave ..who cares...
You get more ways to play the same chords and riffs..
Sometimes an octave makes a world of difference.

Basically you took that F that was 2 frets out of your reach and
brought it down in to the picture....6 strings=12 new octaves

Why not just use a drop D?
Well..drop D is not as dramatic..youre just tuning down one string a half step.

Drop tunings also work perfectly for Heavier gauge strings. Those
kinds of strings give you some wicked palm mutes and presence
as well. These strings are so thick that they need lower tunings to
keep from destroying your neck...lol...Its really a coincidence...
but heavy strings need lower tunings because they require an
amount of tension that alot of guitars just cant handle in standard.
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#11
you get a whole new octave when you tune to drop c? um.. are you sure?

you drop all stings down (two steps i think) and then what is usually your low E string goes down another half step. I'm pretty good at my maths and im sure 2 + 1/2 = 2.5

2.5 steps doesnt = an octave.

if i'm wrong please tell me why, i must be missing something in my theory.
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you get a whole new octave when you tune to drop c? um.. are you sure?

you drop all stings down (two steps i think) and then what is usually your low E string goes down another half step. I'm pretty good at my maths and im sure 2 + 1/2 = 2.5

2.5 steps doesnt = an octave.

if i'm wrong please tell me why, i must be missing something in my theory.


Its actually 2 steps or 4 half steps..

If you are in standard tuning...your Low string is E...

If you drop that E to a C...you get to use a C,C#,D,D# that was unreachable before.

before you dropped to that C you had an E

that E was only 12/13ths of the D# octave above...
drop to D# you get the full D# octave...a New octave.

11/13ths of the D octave above
Drop to D you get the full D octave..a New octave

10/13ths of the C# octave above
Drop to C# you get the full C# octave...a New octave

9/13ths of the C octave above
Drop to C...you get the Full C octave..a New octave

Anytime you drop a string one half step...you get to play a full octave that
was not accessible before. Sure tuning from E ..to D is only one step...
but you get two new octaves by doing that.

you can have an open E...12th fret E...and a D on the 23rd fret...
you would have another E on the 25th fret...
IF you were to drop the E two half steps...or one whole step it would
make it a D...making the 23rd fret an E.

If you use the original E for a reference point ..you can play 1 and 10/13ths
of 2 E octaves..by dropping the E to a D..you sacrifice the first 2/13ths of the
first...but you can now play the full second.

That gives you a new octave....12/13ths of an octave is a nothing..lol

does that make any sense?

Thats why Dropping can sound so brutal...
C,C#,D,D#,E,F,F#,G,G#,A,A#,B,C,C#,D,D#,E,F,F#,G,G#,A,A#,B
.................E,F,F#,G,G#,A,A#,B,C,C#,D,D#,E,F,F#,G,G#,A,A#,B,B#,C,C#,D

Look at how much of that C-octave you left out by playing standard...
Thats quite a bit of space..huh?

I think I should of worded it better...Think of it as a new Complete octave
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#13
ah so thats what you meant. right got it.
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#15
By the way, I think most metal bands don't play in drop C. I've seen that more in modern "hardcore." I may be wrong, though.
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By the way, I think most metal bands don't play in drop C. I've seen that more in modern "hardcore." I may be wrong, though.


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if you get into the real respected metal, its not used that much, but if youre listening to more of the commercialized metal or death metal youll see it a lot...however, stuff like necrophagist, behemoth, and nevermore all are in the normal interval tuning, all of them downtune though, IE, instead of just downtuning their lowest string to get the powerchords they cant play the right way, they downtune the entire guitar, so the scale formulas and whatnot stay the same, its just lower and heavier
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#17
no matter how you want to sound, you always have to keep the vocalists' range in mind.

that said, drop C just sounds cool - and personally I like to have loose strings for wide vibrato
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#19
Yea, I play standard, but I love the drop C sound, the only time it makes a difference to my ears is when someone is rocking their asses off... like system of a down, or most heavy death metal bands.
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#20
technically tuning to drop C doesnt' give you any more of a range than drop D (or any drop tuning) you just shift the range that you're playing in down. imo its done for a couple reasons (which have all been mentioned i think)

1) it sounds heavier
2) it suits the vocalists range better
3) ease of powerchords
4) drop tuning affords certain chord timbres easier ie, the 3 string major chord


C--7-
G--3-
C--3-
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5) tuning lower gives the string more slack which requires less pressure to play (and creates less tension) and makes it easier to bend the strings AND bend them farther (when i tune to drop B i can easily do a 2 1/2 step bend)