#1
Hi folks, I recently bought a jackson DKMG with active EMGS, I upgraded my guitar instead of my amp. I am playing the DKMG through my Fender frontman 15g that came with my starter pack and it sounds horrible. The distortion is really really muddy, it sounds really bad. Would it be better if i play it through a distortion pedal ( Boss MT-2 for example) or am I better off upgrading my amp? I am not looking to spend more than $200-250 USD
#2
I say upgrade the amp....
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#3
Upgrading your amp, i had the same amp as you, and the distortion would not get better with anything.
#4
well if you're not willing to spend that much then just buy a pedal. A line-6 uber metal gives great Mesa rectifier-ish distortion, or maybe a multi-FX pedal.
#7
if you're not going to spend more than $200, you're not going to get more than an extremely mediocre distortion, though upgrading your amp would be the thing to do. Look at a Roland Cube 30X or a Vox Valvetronix XL.
#8
Amp. Epi VJ stack. OIr maybe a 5w Crate tube, the Palomino V8, i think theyre both under $250.
#9
always amp before guitar. always always always.
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Really? I thought Frontmans where highly respected around here?!
#10
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Amp. Epi VJ stack. OIr maybe a 5w Crate tube, the Palomino V8, i think theyre both under $250.

The dude's playing a Jackson with active EMG's. He's most likely not going to be playing 60-80's era buttrock.

Look into a Cube 30X, you won't be disappointed.
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#11
a ibanez valbee would be the right thing for you it's an incredible high gain all tube 5w amp
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#12
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The dude's playing a Jackson with active EMG's. He's most likely not going to be playing 60-80's era buttrock.

Look into a Cube 30X, you won't be disappointed.

Yup, I play mostly metal. Ill look into the 30x but I can't seem to find any local retailers that carries Rolands.
#13
Quote by Ishiga
The dude's playing a Jackson with active EMG's. He's most likely not going to be playing 60-80's era buttrock.

Look into a Cube 30X, you won't be disappointed.


Yeah. Look into a Vox Valvetronix, Cube 30X, or perhaps a used Spider III.
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Yeah. Look into a Vox Valvetronix, Cube 30X, or perhaps a used Spider III.



No, not A spider!
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Amp. Epi VJ stack. OIr maybe a 5w Crate tube, the Palomino V8, i think theyre both under $250.

That'll give him some good metal tones for sure

He doesn't seem to have the money for another pedal, so I'd say a Vox AD30VT or Roland Cube 30
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#18
the frontman has very buzzy & thin distortion. if you're not looking to spend over $200-250 for an upgrade id say save that cash and buy a small all tube amp

if you must have better distortion though, the metalcore is meh. id say skip it and go for something else like a landmine ld1
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get a cheap marshall... my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps.
#19
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No, not A spider!


Give me a break They are versatile, and good sounding practice amps for those that have patience with them. They are a bit over priced, but hence I said used. TS, yeah, one of those is good.
#20
a small tube amp ain't gonna do metal - go solid state (I use Roland for my metal stuff) and maybe a multi-effects pedal. I love my tube amps for everything else but for inexpensive METAL - SOLID STATE is the best high-gain sound you're gonna get. All tube for Metal is high-end stuff costing lots of $$$$. I use a Zoom G2 and an old 50-watt Roland with the Zoom on either the Rectifier or 5150 setings...
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#21
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One of these? 30w is way more than enough for me. I live with a roomate and i don;t gig.
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meh, you'd probably need a pedal to get a pretty good metal sound out of that. Look for a Valvetronix XL (they're relatively new, I think, so I wouldn't bother checking craigslist) or a Cube 30 X.
#22
i'd probably get a roland cube 30 for what you want.
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#23
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a small tube amp ain't gonna do metal - go solid state (I use Roland for my metal stuff) and maybe a multi-effects pedal. I love my tube amps for everything else but for inexpensive METAL - SOLID STATE is the best high-gain sound you're gonna get. All tube for Metal is high-end stuff costing lots of $$$$. I use a Zoom G2 and an old 50-watt Roland with the Zoom on either the Rectifier or 5150 setings...


a heavily modded epi vj /w an od to boost can do metal, as i have seen it


but then again thats a lot more work than just purchasing an ss
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#24
I have 3 tube amps - all are Vintage 60's (5-watt and 2 15-watters). I have an OD pedal and a tubescreamer (and a few others) - I owned a Valve Junior head that was modded - (gain, brite and standby mods) for about 3 days and got rid of it (not enough tone for my tastes and my older ones sounded much better anyways)... I still say SS is better for metal. I LOVE MY TUBE AMPS for classic rock, blues, etc. but when I WANNA DO CLUTCH - it's Roland and DIGITAL distortion pedals or M.E. pedals for me. Now if I had a 100-watt Mesa, KRANK, ENGL or Boutique that would be a different story
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#26
I went ahead of bought a 15w Valvetronic XL. I LOVE IT!! Thanks guys, really nice crunch on black setting.
#28
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if you're not going to spend more than $200, you're not going to get more than an extremely mediocre distortion, though upgrading your amp would be the thing to do. Look at a Roland Cube 30X or a Vox Valvetronix XL.


dont upgrade to transistor (cube) or halftube (valvetronix).
Go with the real deal. Tube combo!
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#29
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$200-250 USD



Roland Cube 30X hands down.
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#30
Peavey Transtube series, Cube. I do like the 5 watt combos, but I don't play modern metal.
#31
Active EMGs? I'd say you're pretty much screwed for anything less than an actual medium-sized gig-wrothy stack. Seriously. I've yet to come across any small/home-sized amp that sounds good with active pickups.
#32
Buttrock? Whatchoo talkin bout?
Anyways... roland cube I guess. But I don't know how good EMG's will sound with solid state.
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#33
Your problem is simple .... active EMG's plus a crappy solid state amp. Actives are designed to push a tube amp into overdrive earlier, crap solid state amps don't react the same way. If you give them too hot an input signal it can simply overload things and give you nothing but clipping and general crap.
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Your problem is simple .... active EMG's plus a crappy solid state amp. Actives are designed to push a tube amp into overdrive earlier, crap solid state amps don't react the same way. If you give them too hot an input signal it can simply overload things and give you nothing but clipping and general crap.


+1

I find that active EMGs often sound worse though a solid state amp than crappy OEM stock pickups.

Return the guitar and buy a good amp.
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#36
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Your problem is simple .... active EMG's plus a crappy solid state amp. Actives are designed to push a tube amp into overdrive earlier, crap solid state amps don't react the same way. If you give them too hot an input signal it can simply overload things and give you nothing but clipping and general crap.


toshay, i missed that.
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#37
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a heavily modded epi vj /w an od to boost can do metal, as i have seen it


but then again thats a lot more work than just purchasing an ss

Sound better, though!

TS, Roland Cube is probably your best bet. But you won't really get to use the EMG's until you have a 5150 or JCM to play on