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#1
hey, ive been experimenting with putting my effect pedals in different lineups, switching some from the effects loop to the guitar to amp line and i began wondering what other people are doing with their pedals. so far ive found the best combo for me is:

Guitar ------ wah-------- amp
FX send-- big muff--qtron--memoryman--- DL4-- fx return

ive also got a talkbox hooked up to the speaker output in my amp. post your own combo on here and maybe a picture or two!

Thanks, Dave
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#2
Distortion/Fuzz/OD Should go before the preamp not in the loop. But that should be cool.

EDIT: Sorry, for some reason i seemed to think what you were asking is where you should put your effects.
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#3
you have a talkbox eh? i dont get how to use those, ive been told id need a PA system??
#4
Quote by beckyjc
Distortion/Fuzz/OD Should go before the preamp not in the loop. But that should be cool.


+1

I do this:

Gibson SG-> Wah -> SunFace -> Big Muff -> Echo/Chorus

Not a big fan of effects loops. I take the wah off on songs where I don't use it, the SunFace doesn't sound as good if a non-true-bypass pedal is in front of it turned off.
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#5
people usually use distortion/od/fuzz before the amp, not in the effects loop, but if you like the sound as is, use it however you want.
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Mine's amp -> dist -> OD -> Wah -> Axe. Emphasises the wah effect, & for some reason, the OD onto the dist. is great for lead-work.
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#7
I agree, only modulation and delay pedals should really go in the effects loop. Of course, even that depends on what you want to achieve. I like my effects to be very subtle, so I run everything through the preamp tubs to filter them a bit. My actual order on stage is the same order as my signature.
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you have a talkbox eh? i dont get how to use those, ive been told id need a PA system??


yea you do. its actually the coolest effect i could imagine. the way it works is... you have to have a speaker output on your amp and run a cable from that to the talkbox input. then when you click on the talkbox the sound that would be coming from the amp is sent to the talkbox which has a speaker built in it. the sound goes from the speaker through a rubber tube and up into your mouth. so now the sound of your guitar is playing into your mouth and you need to have the tube attached to a micstand with a mic and the sound travels out of your mouth into the mic and because the sound gets shaped by how you position your lips it sounds like the guitar is almost talking when you move your mouth. you can say words quite well with some practice... thus the name talkbox. but i dont use it to say words just to shape the sound.
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#9
hmmm..... ordering your pedals... i'd say laid out horizontally in a line from smallist to biggest
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I agree, only modulation and delay pedals should really go in the effects loop. Of course, even that depends on what you want to achieve. I like my effects to be very subtle, so I run everything through the preamp tubs to filter them a bit. My actual order on stage is the same order as my signature.


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I run the Q-tron in front of the amp, too, being that it behaves a lot like a wah/OD.
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Well, once I have the pedals I'm looking at getting (bring on payday!)

Wah -> Overdrive -> Overdrive -> Amp -> FX Send -> Compressor -> EQ -> Noise Suppressor -> FX Return
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i am the only one who has wah after distortion?

Probably not, but you belong to the minority.

I use:
Guitar -> Wah -> OD -> Amp
Loop: Octave -> Chorus -> Flanger -> Delay

Maybe the pedals in the loop could be arranged differently, but I rarely use them, and I never use them all at the same time (Unless I'm alone and really stoned).
#15
mine goes:

Guitar -> Fuzz -> Wah -> OD -> Chorus -> Amp

i dont like the wah infront of the fuzz, cause then it sounds way to hendrix-esque'd
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i go Guitar>DS-1>Cry Baby>Digidelay>Small Clone>Amp when i get an effects loop, im gonna put the digidelay and small clone in it (hopefully an electric mistress, too)
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#17
guitar --> rmc wizard wah --> tubescreamer --> boss tuner --> amp,

FX Loop Send --> EQ --> Chorus --> Delay --> FX Loop Return
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Add a Fender PT-100 Tuner, MXR Dyna Comp, and EHX #1 Echo in their by christmas.

No FX loop.
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Fender HSS Strat>Sovtek Big Muff>DOD Octave>Boss Dynamic Wah>Boss Mega Distortion>Boss Distortion>Boss Blues Driver>Boss Super Over Drive>Digitech Screamin' Blues>MXR Phase 100>Boss Chorus Ensamble>Twin Reverb

Add a Fender PT-100 Tuner, MXR Dyna Comp, and EHX #1 Echo in their by christmas.

No FX loop.

I hope you don't keep all those plugged in all the time, it will wreck your tone. And I'm sure you don't use three distortion pedals and three OD pedals simultaneously... or do you?
#20
Yeah, if I use my whole pedalboard, they're all hooked at once.

I just took out the Super OD today, because I never really use it, and I noticed my tone took a change for the better.

It doesn't ruin my tone as much as you'd think, but there is some coloring. Only hearable by people who have the right ears. My brother and mom who know nothing about guitar can't hear a difference, but my dad can(has been a musician for years).

My DS-1 is next to go if I find I don't use it much. It's my second most unused pedal, but I do use it some, which is why it remains.
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#21
I've always thought alphabetical order makes life easier for everyone....


...For most gigs I go for the tried and tested 'classic rock' setup:

Guitar> Overdrive> Amp

I might get a talkbox too, but other than that it's all quiet round the back. I don't use my FX loop if i can help it.
#22
My setup is:

Guitar > Tuner > Distortion > Phase Shifter > Overdrive > Vibrato/Tremolo > Amp.

I put the phase shifter inbetween the two distortions because I can't really decide whether before or after sounds better, plus it seems to work well after my distortion (for flangy stuff) and before my OD (for a wah like sound). Tremolo kinda gets cancelled out when put before distortion, however I use it more for cleaner stuff anyway.

I tried using my effects loop once, but it had a MASSIVE amount of buzzing. Still not quite sure if I was doing it properly (just tried it out with some $1 patch leads, letting the pedal sit on top of the amp), but I can't really be bothered to buy that many leads, although I'd rather put my vibrato/tremolo pedal in the effects loop.

If I had longer leads/a better daisy chain I'd put my guitar tuner at the end, to act as a quick mute as well as tuning pedal.
#23
I have my wah and overdrives in before the preamp, and my delay and reverb in the effects loop if that helps any.
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guitar > wah > od > chorus >amp
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Question from a n00b guys... Where should an EQ go? If it's not in the loop, should it be at the front or the end of my chain? (I know, wherever I like it, but what is the general rule of thumb)... Also, on an amp without an FX loop (I just have a simple 5 watt tube amp), is it possible to create one on it? How hard would that be? Keep in mind I don't have any really big modulation effects yet, just the standard Wah, Dist, OD, (soon to be EQ)... Maybe Delay next.


Where ever you want it. If you wanna shape the distorted tone put it after distortion.

Guitar > Bad Horsie > Muff > Crunchbox

The wah sucks after distortion, is awesome before. I have fuzz before distortion because i never use them at the same time, unless I'm using the muff as a clean boost into a distortion pedal(which is actually does well) in which case it needs to be before the crunchbox.

EDIT: Plus the Morley has a signal buffer, that combine with two true bypass pedals means no signal loss with long cables/more pedals.
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#27
Guitar > DS-1 Distortion > BF-3 Flanger > DD-6 Digital Delay > Amp

...am I the only one who uses a Flanger? It makes tremolo picking and muting sound really cool, especially with the delay. Then you tap the Distortion on and off, like a pulse, sloooowly...mmm...
#28
Quote by JC13
Where should an EQ go?
An excellent article on signal chain order, "Order in the Court—Which pedal goes where?", by Peter Swiadon, is hosted on the Boss site, and is highly recomended—a great read. The article basically recommends the following GENERAL order:

PREAMP/DISTORTION —> EQ —> CHORUS/FLANGE/PHASE —> REVERB/DELAY

In my particular case it's:

Engl E530 preamp —> dbx EQ —> TC G•Major multi-effects unit

But the article also mentions the practice of putting the EQ before the amp, where its tone-shaping may be less evident, but it will then act as an overdrive, in the case of active EQ unit (typically +12dB of boost on common rack-mount EQ units).
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#29
Guitar - wah - DS-1 - amp. Then, I have a Digitech RP200 in the effects loop for delay, reverb, flange, ect., with a creamy (not high-gain) distortion on my amp to boot. It all equals tonal bliss.

By the way, I write/play guitar instrumentals, hence the creamy distortion. I know most people use high-gain on UG, and I don't want to be flamed for it. it's just not for me. There IS such a thing as too much distortion - this coming from a former gain wh0re!

As far as my experience with live/studio setups is concerned (15+ years), my setup is accurate and reasonable. It has worked for years, as a matter of fact.

ONE THING: Most people don't know this, but Hendrix was the first to really pioneer the use of a wah IN FRONT OF everything else in his setup. The wah was placed elsewhere in guitar rigs before that. Makes you think: What is 'right' and what is 'wrong' in terms of individual choice when it comes to pedal setups, anyways?

Food for thought, I guess.
#30
guitar>tube buffer>noise supressor>tuner> wacky pedal >wah1>autowah>octave>octave>od>od2>od3>distortion1>distortion 2>distortion 3> fuzz> eq pedal 1> eq pedal 2> tremolo>phaser>flanger>wah2>vibrato>wacky pedal 1> wacky pedal > wacky pedal > delay > delay > delay > delay > delay > reverb 1> reverb 2> reverb 3 > wacky pedal > stereo panner > head 1-cab input 1
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#31
^ wew, so many delays and reverbs. why do you have your noise supressor at the start of the chain?

Guitar > Wah > Whammy (should be first?) > Dist > EQ > OD > OD2 > Delay > Amp
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^ wew, so many delays and reverbs. why do you have your noise supressor at the start of the chain?

Guitar > Wah > Whammy (should be first?) > Dist > EQ > OD > OD2 > Delay > Amp



Wah first makes sense to ME. You want to affect the guitar's output frequencies, not the guitar's delayed/reverbed/flanged/distorted/WHATEVER tone. It muddies it up, BAD, when you generally put a distortion/effect through a wah. Hell, A wah in front of an amp is as classic as classic can be! look up pro rigs, see where they put their wah's in their chain... more often than not, it's first or right near the front.

Sounds better this way, IMO.
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^ wew, so many delays and reverbs. why do you have your noise supressor at the start of the chain?

Guitar > Wah > Whammy (should be first?) > Dist > EQ > OD > OD2 > Delay > Amp

all of my pedals are very quiet. my guitar gives a tiny bit of hiss. i also use feedback harmonically. so i just have an isp decimator on a smidge. pretty much just used for silence in between songs.

i use delay a lot. its my favorite effect. and i use one of the reverbs for feedback on a few songs. one is a standard tube spring unit that i use mostly. and the other is digital that i switch between cave, halls, church, etc.
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Begin FX loop --> Digitech Whammy --> Ernie Ball Volume Pedal --> Boss Turbo Overdrive (never use it, soon to be replaced with clean boost) --> Boss Super Chorus --> Boss Super Phaser --> MXR EVH Phase 90 --> Boss DD-3 Delay.

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#35
just got some pedals for my birthday, so wondering if i put them in the right order with the others..

guitar --> Boss Chromatic Tuner --> Keeley Compressor --> Original Dunlop Crybaby Wah --> Keeley Modded DS1 --> Boss EQ --> Boss SUPER Chorus --> amp --> DD6
#36
Maybe you guys could help me. I'm running a Digitech Digidelay, a Boss TR-2 tremolo, An EHX nano stone phase shifter and an EHX nano clone chorus. how should I arrange them?
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#37


I have the talk box in the top right corner that I'm still not sure where to place. I also have the tremolo that is just chilling as well.... not sure about where to set these two. My FX Loop is all cacked up for some reason. Just sounds bad when I run delays through it. So I am currently not using it. I dunno... I've posted one of these "help my pedal board" threads before with no results. Tight, yo.
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#38
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By the way, I write/play guitar instrumentals, hence the creamy distortion. I know most people use high-gain on UG, and I don't want to be flamed for it. it's just not for me. There IS such a thing as too much distortion - this coming from a former gain wh0re!

I don't really understand where you're getting this from, I've never seen anyone get flamed for enjoying creamy distortion instead of teh br00talz. I for one, wholeheartedly agree that there is such a thing as too much gain, but to each their own I guess.
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lol, I have been harassed in The Pit for NOT being a gain *****... you can just IMAGINE the insults I'd get by using the word 'creamy', lol! Kids will be kids, I guess...
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