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#1
OK, so my parents are giving me like 400 bucks for Christmas bc they have no clue what I want, so I think I'm gonna get a Fender J-Bass (MIM obviously) in black. How do we feel about this idea UG? and btw I play Foo Fighters-esque hard rock and Punk mainly, I already have a P-Bass and T-bird.
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Interesting. It turns out that there are people on the forum who play an upright bass. I'll make a note of that.

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#2
YES! They are wonderful. But try one first to see if you like it.
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#3
J Basses are versatile and cross genres with amazing grace and aplomb. I agree, try one out before Christmas to make sure its the next bass for you. I am the first to defend the J bass as a good all round instrument, but they've never really lit my fire as a player in their classic form, or there's been basses in the same price range that I've just liked better.
#4
Great reviews around here. There are already lots of 'em...if you catch my drift.
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#5
the neck on J's are much thinner than a P-bass neck. U should have basically all the bases covered bass-wise, except that heavy Ernie Ball Stingray sound, like on the Strokes song Juicebox. Also, listen to some of their other songs to get an idea of the J-Bass tone.
#6
OK thank you all and btw I've played them and I love them I was just wondering how y'all felt about it. I was just wondering how it would fit into the genre that I play.
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Interesting. It turns out that there are people on the forum who play an upright bass. I'll make a note of that.

*makes note*

*puts note on wall*

*stares at note for a minute*

*sits back down and resumes doing what I was doing*
#7
Look into an active Jazz one. Although, it prolly is out of your price range. But maybe, a Christmas Miracle will happen and you can find a used one.
#8
A Fender Deluxe Active J Bass is only about $150 out of his price range.
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#12
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Sell your T-bird and see if that puts you high enough for a highway one. And jazzes are quality instruments.

+1

fender jazz basses are the best basses in my opinion, thats why basically every good bass player in Memphis plays them
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#13
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Sell your T-bird and see if that puts you high enough for a highway one. And jazzes are quality instruments.


agree totally, the J-bass is an amazing instrument, problem is the MIM j-basses are not produced as well as MIA or MIJ ones, and in the end, while still maintain the jazz look and sound, don't play as well, and while the tone is similar, it pales in comparison to the MIA or even like a few people mentioned, the Highway One, its a j-bass, that only costs around 750 usually, and it is a very high quality instrument, much better than a MIM.

so if you sell your Tbird (only because i think the P is a better value than the Tbird) you should have closer to 750, and you can look around for a used one or something or just start saving up some money now, otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of sub-par basses, with a highway one you'll have a very nice bass
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#14
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Sell your T-bird and see if that puts you high enough for a highway one. And jazzes are quality instruments.


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+1

fender jazz basses are the best basses in my opinion, thats why basically every good bass player in Memphis plays them


+2
and btw, i bought a used Deluxe V MIM(five string), for $300, 4 yrs ago, sold it 2 yrs later for $350. just after i bought my Hwy 1.
#15
+Fitz for the selling of a Thunderbird. Doubtful if it'll get any play after this purchase.

But as far as getting a Jazz, great idea. I'd tell you to consider a P-Bass, but I don't think an MIM is big enough of an upgrade from a Squier to justify not getting a Jazz over it. In my opinion, the Jazz's design is as close to a King-of-all-trades bass as a passive bass can get. The Jazz hype over here (and T-bird hate for that matter) is really well-deserved; definitely not a case where it's popular and Jaco used it so we like it.
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#16
yeah, what they said. Ditch the T-bird and get a H1 Jazz. And then later you can put Nordstrands in it and have yourself one hell of a nice axe :] They already come with a Badass bridge, so that's one less thing you gotta get for it.

The thing with the new H1 instruments is that they've got a super-thin nitro finish that's basically designed to get chewed up and chipped. It's supposed to make it look "vintage", but I've always been psycho about equipment care and maintenance, so that would drive me absolutely insane. The poly-finish on my American P-bass is virtually indestructible; yesterday I whacked it good and hard on my desk and there wasn't even a little line or scuff or anything. I wish they could make car-paint that good- I breath on my car and it'll scuff.
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#17
I would actually like to ask something about these Highway one jazz basses. Lately I have started quite liking the fenders, and the H 1 series looks really attractive, but why are these basses so cheap (in comparison with the standard MIA series) ?. I know that they have different pickups (I would upgrade anyway to the SCNs later, so no problem), different finish (isn't the nitro finish more expensive normally?) and a better bridge. So, what's the trick?
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But hold on - you're debating on whether or not to buy a bass or keep your house? That's pretty fucking hardcore!
#18
i gotta agree with thefitz, get rid of the t-bird and use it to fund a quality jazz bass.

my opinion on jazz basses is pretty much, that they are the perfect bass and you won't top them but obviously someone here will disagree with me.

also try before you buy
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#19
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I would actually like to ask something about these Highway one jazz basses. Lately I have started quite liking the fenders, and the H 1 series looks really attractive, but why are these basses so cheap (in comparison with the standard MIA series) ?. I know that they have different pickups (I would upgrade anyway to the SCNs later, so no problem), different finish (isn't the nitro finish more expensive normally?) and a better bridge. So, what's the trick?
Thanks



Cheaper wood, electronics, lower Quality Control etc

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#20
P, J, and T-Bird? Sounds like the start of a collection to me! I'm not a fan of the J, but if that's what you want, the H1's ripe for hotrodding at a later date. SCN's, QuarterPounders...there's a huge choice of pups for J's. Throw in some qualty tuners...

I was just reading an old mag with a review of the H1 Strat; apparently you could polish it yourself, make it a bit glossier.
#21
how do those work for playing metal? the way it sounds, its a good bass for any genre by what your reviews say
#22
I play punk, hardcore, rock, funk, all that, and I absolutely love my J-bass. The versatility is so great, and what sold me was the neck. I love the thin neck.
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#23
NO!
dont ditch the tbird. theyre great basses
minus the neck dive thing.
i guess if youre really prissy that solely would
deter you from it.
sell the p-bass cause theyre not that great.
and a j bass and a tbird make a really good range
of possible sounds whereas a pbass and a jbass
will limit you to light to midrange tones plus they
kinda look the same except the pickguard
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#24
Quote by KevnTone
NO!
dont ditch the tbird. theyre great basses
minus the neck dive thing.
i guess if youre really prissy that solely would
deter you from it.
sell the p-bass cause theyre not that great.
and a j bass and a tbird make a really good range
of possible sounds whereas a pbass and a jbass
will limit you to light to midrange tones plus they
kinda look the same except the pickguard

What about the fret access? What about the bland tone? You're the first guy I've ever heard recommend a T-Bird over a P-Bass.
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#26
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What about the fret access? What about the bland tone? You're the first guy I've ever heard recommend a T-Bird over a P-Bass.



well i OWN both of them
fret access sucks on any bolt-on-neck bass.
tone is subjective.
personally i love the tone of mine.
and i like to be a little different.
id say 4/5 bands ive ever seen live
(including openers and local shows thats like 60 bands)
have a bass player who plays a jazz bass or a pbass
im not knocking either.
i love my pbass and i really wish i had a jazz bass
but i just like the tbird better than the p
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#27
Fret access sucks on any bolt-on neck bass? Are you serious? Any well made Fender (like my American Deluxe), Ernie Ball, and Warwick bass bolt-ons have great fret access, and those are the only ones I've tried.
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#28
I can reach all my frets fine. I play For whom the Bell Tolls all the time too.
#29
allright let me rephrase that.
fret access sucks on any bolt on neck bass
that can be bought for a couple hundred dollars.

were talkin to a kid that wants to spend like 2 - 300 on
a jbass
not some hobbyist in their 30s who owns american fenders and 1500 dollar stingrays
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#30
Well, the Squiers have the same body shape and fretboard layout of an American Fender, as do the OLPs to their Stingray counterparts.
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#31
well i dunno wat to tell u then.
i own both basses
and they both have the same fret reach
the pbass has a narrower neck
but that doesnt really affect me
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#32
I maybe a little early, but pwned?

Also, you can ask all but about 5 users in the bass forum for experiences with playing/owning a j bass.
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#33
Quote by KevnTone
well i dunno wat to tell u then.
i own both basses
and they both have the same fret reach
the pbass has a narrower neck
but that doesnt really affect me



What now?

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and a j bass and a tbird make a really good range
of possible sounds whereas a pbass and a jbass
will limit you to light to midrange tones plus they
kinda look the same except the pickguard


I would wager 90+% of all recordings ever were done with either a J or a P.

Plus isn't the Tbird set neck?
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#34
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What now?


I would wager 90+% of all recordings ever were done with either a J or a P.

Plus isn't the Tbird set neck?



uhh no the epiphone ones are bolt on.

gibsons are too overpriced tehyre not a whole lot
better than the epis.
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#35
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What now?

A new thing I hate about T-birds - 1.73" nut width. What the hell? That's practically an Ibanez 5-string!
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#36
i get it.
you hate tbirds.
im so sorry that i like them
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#37
J-Basses Rock, I love mine to death the tone, neck, body, everything is great (Geddy Lee Sig.) I play mostly Experimental Rock, Blues, and Punk.


Thunderbirds arn't that bad either, I have an Epiphone goth thunderbird and it works just fine for me, nowhere in the ball park as a J-Bass, but it is still a lot of fun to play and has decent tone.
#39
I love the offset body of the Jazz. Minor detail, but looks awesome! Also, it hangs off the body nicely when worn midway, but not as nicely as a Stingray.

That's s_u_y_*'s vain analysis.

But, out of my basses including a Warwick Thumb NT and Musicman Stingray, my Fender Jazz is my main bass. I think that outlines my feelings on the Jazz.
#40
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J Basses are versatile and cross genres with amazing grace and aplomb. I agree, try one out before Christmas to make sure its the next bass for you. I am the first to defend the J bass as a good all round instrument, but they've never really lit my fire as a player in their classic form, or there's been basses in the same price range that I've just liked better.


It's weird, that is what it is like for me as well.
Everytime I grab one, I think it is unreal.
Yet the moment I leave I can't stop thinking about the Thumb and stingray I played as well, and fantasise about playing a 4003 ric.
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