#1
I'm only playing a 30 watt Vox Valvetronic at the moment and yeah it's pretty nice but I'd really like to step it up a notch, the sort of tone I'm looking for is ideally the kind of tone that Jason Becker gets but I'm really not much of an authority on amps, playing unplugged 90% of the time

Atm I am primarily playing my 3/4 year old Ibanez JS100, I was going to put new pickups into it as it's a bit weak sounding for my tastes, bit stuck on that too actually

Cheers if anyone can help out
#2
All tube 100 watt ENGL.
Ok maybe you won't be able to afford that but still that would probably be the best option. Or not, I dunno.
#3
what kind of money are you talking? how's your trem holding up?
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#4
My trem's actually holding up pretty well the guitar was set up very well when I first got it and it certainly plays well. I'm so used to the wizard neck and the frets on this that to change guitar would take a bit of getting used to, but equally I'm worried that popping in new pick-ups is a waste of my time if the trem is going to disintegrate on this thing
#5
yeah, that's the problem with cheaper ibanez trems.

maybe consider swineshead or irongear, then? i haven't tried irongear but hear good things, and I know swinesheads are nice. both are good value.
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#7
problem is price... even the avenger is the equivalent of $3000 here. Don't get me wrong, they're really nice amps, but you really struggle to justify them when you can get something that sounds as good as the avenger for the equivalent of $1000-$1500 less...

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#8
Eh, I didn't know where he was. Honestly, there's a SLO fullstack with python tolex for sale locally near me for $3700 usd....i don't feel like converting that to pounds right now, but I suppose it wouldn't be that much more than you'd have to pay for an avenger...and less than most mesas....I really DO feel bad for you guys... :'-(
#9
yeah, basically. that'd set us back about $8000-$9000 (new, to be fair, but still). the SLO head is over $5000 here (new).

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yeah, basically. that'd set us back about $8000-$9000 (new, to be fair, but still). the SLO head is over $5000 here (new).


what does the ENGL Powerball go for over there? just curious.
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#12
Not as cheap as we get Mesa here I'm assuming.
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2 fast 2 vader, Engls are the about same price in the US as they are in Germany, so I figure they would be around there in Britain too. Generally, European amps aren't much more in the US, but US amps are over twice as much in europe.

yeah, basically. we do get better deals on the odd thing (laney, marshall, orange), but by and large it's not very much difference even when we do get the better deal. While in the US, you frequently get things for less than half what we have to pay.

Generally speaking engl and other european-made stuff etc. isn't better value than the american-made stuff because we get killer deals on it- it's better value because we get utterly gipped on the US-made stuff. We're getting the EU-made stuff at a similar price to what you americans pay, but the US-made stuff can be twice as expensive.



Anyway, a powerball generally goes for around £1000, if you get a decent deal (RRP is around £1250, I think). That's around $2000 or so.
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#15
yeah.

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#18
ubertron, would i be right in assuming you are stewart millar? (tis glenn) already told you, laney gh50L, you can't afford most of the amps these guys are suggesting.

If you aren't stewart... well i now look like a douche lol
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. . . that'd set us back about $8000-$9000 (new, to be fair, but still). the SLO head is over $5000 here (new).
Holy crap! That's INSANE! I absolutley LOVE the sound of the SLO, but Engls are for sure the better buy across the pond. Haven't tried them all, but I've tried quite a few. IMO, it's as follows:

• Soldano SLO
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• 5150/6505

I went with a B-stock 6505 that was less then 1/4 the price of a new Soldano SLO.

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. . . you can't afford most of the amps these guys are suggesting.
If that's the case, I would go with a Peavey ValveKing and the "right" pedal.
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#20
^ a gh50L would piss on a valveking. £400 + one of those harley benton 212 cabs from thomann for £137.

Valveking is £300 then with a decent overdrive we'll say £50, so £350. I say the extra £180 is well worth it.
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#21
^^ (storm)

^ yeah, it is. I haven't tried the slo, but the avenger is nice. However, I'm not sure it's £1500 nice (i.e. at least $3000), when you can get cornfords, engl, koch etc. for less...

Definitely a nice amp, just like most things, not at extortionate prices...
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. . . a gh50L would piss on a valveking. £400 + one of those harley benton 212 cabs from thomann for £137.
Never heard a Laney, so I don't know. Plus they're a bit pricey, here in the States. Peaveys are made in the US, and offer pretty good bang for the buck.

Edit: Oh, duh. The TS is in Europe! Yup, probably go for the Laney then.
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#24
the valveking is made in china, though.

I haven't tried a gh, but based on the other laneys i have tried, i'd suspect it's nicer than a VK.

i'm not sure i'd trust that HB cab though... the framus one is only another £60 or so...
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#25
^ true, but the HB would look better with it lol. V30's but then.. probably particle board or something
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. . . the valveking is made in china, though.
Oh, duh. You're right. My 6505 head was made in the US (I actually didn't even know that until I received it, and it said "Made in USA" all over it!).
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#27
^^ yeah.

^ yeah, the more upmarket peaveys are USA-made... starting with the classic series, i think.
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#28
I know it's a cliche amp to suggest, but i never really got to test one myself, how would a vc/lc30 handle shred? I'm guessing the lc would for once be the better choice but maybe not. and maybe neither would be a good choice.

I still say the gh50l will get you closest for the lowest price.
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#29
i'd say you'd need a boost for the vc unless you can really crank the hell out of it (and even then), and you'd probably need a boost for the lc too. As I said, I haven't tried the gh, but i suspect it'd be more suited to shred straight out of the box.
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#30
that's what i suspected but best to get all possibilities down.
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